Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 11:57 am Post subject: Bro Eugene-There are always Leaders with untamed egos
Bro Eugene-There are always Leaders with untamed egos. Bro Eugene I am an old man of sixty and I have seen preachers and leaders of every sort. Some worthy of their calling and some worthless as being of a humble spirit and a true blessing to the people. Perhaps the leaders you were exposed to were of such a lot, I don't know, but seek out a God fearing, Christ loving, humble man and stick with him like GLUE. I knew such a man. Mr Morrison was his name. He worked in the Adventist Center for the needy who would give out food and clothing to the poor. He was a deacon in our church as well. EVERYTIME he would visit with me, he would ALWAYS get ON HIS KNEES in prayer and pray an earnest prayer, before he went out the door. I admired this man of God so. Oh that I could have his spirit and his love for others. He has passed on now, but there went a true man of God. Seek out men and women such as these, and thank the Lord they are in your life. They will make a great example for you to emulate, in the things you lack. God Bless.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 1:34 pm Post subject: Accurate information request
RonA wrote:
Perhaps the leaders you were exposed to were of such a lot, I don't know
It’s wise to know the facts in a case before you accuse someone of slander. I am happy to direct you toward the path of Christian duty and obedience. If you have a true love for the Seventh-day Adventist church and believe in the manifesto of reform-minded Seventh-day Adventists—i.e., the line that says, “we will not with pen or voice cease to protest against bigotry”—then consider this first step:
It’s amazing to me how many godless Seventh-day Adventists there are who refuse to inquire about the open sins practiced by their papal hierarchical leadership.
Posted: Tue Jan 21, 2003 4:09 pm Post subject: Bro. Eugene-Do not let unpleasant people upset you
Bro. Eugene-Do not let unpleasant people upset you. Seek the company of Christ loving and humble people. Think of what you can do for others personally. Sharing the message of Christ, helping the poor, visiting the sick and fellowshipping with other Christlike brothers and sisters. You cannot change men's thinking, nor some men's arrogance, but you can show everyone the love of Christ in you, by example. On the judgment day, it won't matter how much we know about doctrine, but what we did for Christ in relation to our fellow man.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:33 pm Post subject: forgive me if this is inappropriate
again I hope this is not inappropriate:
Eugene
I know I am not as knowledgeable about this as you are. I have only been a member since 1987. However I am a pastor's wife, I wish to GENTLY tell you that ALL conferences are not like the one you describe. My husband has been a pastor since 2000 and during that time I have had a chance to associate with the conference president, his wife, the ministerial director, and his wife. I also am told some of the information about why certian things happen in a district (none of which I can tell here). I know that you would enjoy the people in the KN-NE conference. My husband has not gone to Seminary and has stated that he does not want to go. You would especially like our district here, my husband preaches out of the word of God and even makes his sermons suited to any potential non-SDA visitors (no distinct doctrines that they would not understand) and definately no strange non-adventist teaching...and "popery".
If you ever get a chance visit a church in our conference. Yes I know they aren't all perfect, we have had our problems, but I know of nothing like you speak (police actions etc) in our conference.
I feel sad for your situation.
Again, I pray that God will bless you this holiday season.
Mary
I wish to GENTLY tell you that ALL conferences are not like the one you describe.
Thank you Dove. I understand that. Seventh-day Adventism is just like first century Judaism. The Jews of some conferences hated Paul so much that they wanted to murder him while other Jews in other cities were eager to hear what he had to say.
Acts 17:1-12
When they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a Jewish synagogue. As his custom was, Paul went into the synagogue, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead. "This Jesus I am proclaiming to you is the Christ," he said. Some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, as did a large number of God-fearing Greeks and not a few prominent women.
But the Jews were jealous; so they rounded up some bad characters from the marketplace, formed a mob and started a riot in the city. They rushed to Jason's house in search of Paul and Silas in order to bring them out to the crowd. But when they did not find them, they dragged Jason and some other brothers before the city officials, shouting: "These men who have caused trouble all over the world have now come here, and Jason has welcomed them into his house. They are all defying Caesar's decrees, saying that there is another king, one called Jesus." When they heard this, the crowd and the city officials were thrown into turmoil. Then they made Jason and the others post bond and let them go.
As soon as it was night, the brothers sent Paul and Silas away to Berea. On arriving there, they went to the Jewish synagogue. Now the Bereans were of more noble character than the Thessalonians, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true. Many of the Jews believed, as did also a number of prominent Greek women and many Greek men.
The Seventh-day Adventist sanctioned practice (in some locations) of wanting certain people dead and arresting folks like Paul just for going to church (Acts 21:27-30), doesn't speak well in favor of the truth.
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