The Angel with the Gospel

RedAngel · child of God Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 24

Just curious,

Do you realize that the gospel that every nation, language and people needs to hear about before the Second Coming of Jesus (Matthew 24) is to be brought to earth by an angel? Revelation 14 shares that one of the last day signs, is the angel that brings the gospel which all nations and people need to hear.

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Eugene Shubert · Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2002 5:20 pm Post subject:

Hi RedAngel, welcome to the forum.

Actually, Revelation 14 mentions 3 angels. Since the messages of the 3 angels are recorded in John’s vision (Rev 14:6-11), isn’t it up to us to understand those messages and to share that understanding with the world?

You are right. The message of those 3 angels is the gospel.

RedAngel · child of God Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 24

So the angel in Rev 14:6,7 is to deliver the everlasting gospel to preach the us earth dwellers during the last days.

The next angel says Babylon is fallen and the thire angel mentions the mark of the beast.

Verse 14 says that "behold a white cloud, an dupon the cloud one sat like unto the SOn of man" is this another angel or the coming of Jesus?

Are all of these angels performing their missions prior to the Second Coming? If so, care to take a closer look at the angel who delivers the gospel?
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Eugene Shubert · Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2002 10:07 pm Post subject: Hi RedAngel

I agree that the angels perform their mission prior to the Second Coming. I thought we could focus on the message. You want to talk about the angels. Go ahead. Give us your view of the angel who delivers the gospel.

RedAngel · child of God Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 24

I was more curious if anyone else had understood that an angel is commissioned to deliver the gospel to earth, rather that each person devise their own interpretation of the gospel.

I see the need for the gospel to be brought (again) to earth as an indication that the gospel had been distorted over the years.
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Eugene Shubert · Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2002 11:21 pm Post subject:

RedAngel,

That strikes me as a Catholic belief. Am I right?

RedAngel · child of God Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 24

Not at all. Though I don't believe the Catholic Church is the dragon or beast as such, I do believe that a "falling away" from the true gospel began way way back in the "Catholic" church when too many people took in upon themselves to decide what was accepatable doctrine. From this we have seen a staggering change of Christ's/Biblical doctrines into the doctrines of men. And this is why I believe the "true" and only gospel is the one that the angel delivers .
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Eugene Shubert · Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 11:35 am Post subject:

The Apostle Paul said, “But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!” Galatians 1:8. Doesn’t that mean we are obligated to study Paul’s gospel and that we shouldn’t just wait for an angel to explain it to us? Shouldn’t we be testing all the spirits according to Biblical truth?

It sounds like you’ve made up your mind to only listen to a literal angel who will preach the gospel in the future. What makes you think that I don’t understand the 3 angels’ messages now? How do you know that the 3 angels in Revelation 14:6-11 aren’t symbols representing those who preach the true gospel in the end-time?

RedAngel · child of God Joined: 09 Apr 2002 Posts: 24

I wasn't startting this thread to discuss the person of the angel. I know that a lot of scripture is symbolic, but I challenge to understand why this angel in Revel 14:6 is just a symbol - as you suggest Eugene. How could a symbolic angel deliver the gospel?

And yet there is nothing unreasonable, nor unscriptural with accepting the Rev 14:6 angel to be a true angel as we have read about them in the Bible. Isn't God a God of miracle? Can't He send and angel to us if He chooses, and expecially if He prophecies He will.

The main point of this topic was to 'enlighten' readers, that the true gospel of Jesus CHrist has been lost to mankind for centuries - and that is why God had a plan to send it back to us, through and angel.
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dedication · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:02 pm Post subject:

While I don't think literal angel's will start preaching the gospel from the sky.....

And I agree totally with the caution:
"For Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light and is deceiving thousands and leading them captive. The advantage he takes of the science of the human mind, is tremendous. Here, serpentlike, he imperceptibly creeps in to corrupt the work of God. The miracles and works of Christ he would make appear as the result of human skill and power. If he should make an open, bold attack upon Christianity, it would bring the Christian in distress and agony to the feet of his Redeemer, and his strong and mighty Deliverer would put the bold adversary to flight. He therefore transforms himself into an angel of light and works upon the mind to allure from the only safe and right path. The sciences of phrenology, psychology, and mesmerism are the channel through which he comes more directly to this generation and works with that power which is to characterize his efforts near the close of probation."

Yet it is also true that God's angel's are VERY MUCH involved in getting those messages before the world.

It is "light from heaven"--
And the angel's of God attend those and help those who proclaimed the message-- and are proclaiming the message.

dedication · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:07 pm Post subject:

Have you discussed WHEN THESE ANGEL messages began to sound?

The first began prior to 1844--
The second began a little later--
The third began after 1844--

You might find J.N Andrews book interesting:
It's all about the three angel's messages--

You can access it at
The Three Angel's of Revelation 14

Eugene Shubert · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 9:30 pm Post subject:

‘dedication’,

I don’t believe that most of what you posted here has anything to do with the point RedAngel was making. However, in regard to your references to Seventh-day Adventist writings and RedAngel’s original point, I recall Ellen White saying something to the effect that God will send literal angels to preach the gospel if men don’t preach it. I believe that quote is in the book Evangelism.

dedication · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:01 pm Post subject:

Sorry if I missunderstood--
But it did seem to me that Red Angel was saying a literal angel would yet preach the three angel messages.

Therefore--
1) I dealt with the caution to such a view
2) I mentioned that we should not take that caution too far
3) I also mentioned the "timing" which would shed much light on "who" actually proclaims these messages, and "what" those messages mean.

Isn't that what this thread is all about?

Eugene Shubert · Posted: Sat Jun 15, 2002 10:42 pm Post subject: