Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 7:56 pm Post subject: My girlfriend is 7th day adventist and
I'm a none demonination christian. I started noticing a few thing different that we belive in but for me if where both christians thats all that matters. But my mother keeps saying how it wont work etc.
Also my GF told me that if she marries me she will have to denounce her church and have to get re baptised. Is this true? can someone help me out here.
Married people, if they're Christian, generally attend the same church. In your mind, do you see your wife attending one church and you another? Or do you expect her to join your church and simply ignore her conscience and tolerate doctrines she probably believes are untrue? If your wife believes the Adventist message and you don't, what will you teach your kids?
But I love her, and I think that god people are separated because of all of these denominations etc. So your telling me I have to leave the only girl that has cared about me this much? Your saying we can never be together? Why would God want this?
I'm telling you that truth is important to Seventh-day Adventists. No one who loves the truth can unite with someone who thinks that Adventist doctrines are irrelevant. I'm asking you to face the reality of the questions I've asked you and answer them sincerely.
It's easy for you to say "just do it" I guess you've never loved someone. And how can you honest say that this is "they way". There are so many different denominations out there that say they are what makes you all any different?
Are you confessing the belief that truth is unknowable? Are you saying it's difficult to face reality? Spiritual people love those who are deeply spiritual. It doesn't matter what the many denominations claim. There is only one Bible.
And the bible clearly says that the old jewish customs where done away with.
The bible says that satan wants all of Gods people separated. The word denomini means to divid and thats exactly what satan wants.
You calling this "the truth" but you fail to realize other peoples point of view something that christ could understand.
It's because of MANS belifs we have all this separation.
One major thing I noticed different about SDA is your belife in other worlds..... I'm sorry but the bible does not say anything about GOD creating other being other then humans and angels.
Anyway it's because of this that someone that I deeply love might be taken away from me. And you dont seem to care or realize that.... but your supposed to be like jesus right? and Jesus would care.
You see the more I listen to you the more I see through you and your belifs.
Theone, I do not think that the issue is whether we care. The issue is that we care for the long term. My mom and dad were from different churches, and they didn't care either about the differences. But by the time I was born, neither of them were anything.
My sister in law followed that same plan. They are now divorced PARTLY because of it. Certainly they made other bad choices. But you cannot belive that over time you will not have some contact with her church if she is at all faithful to it. And it is likely to grind on your nerves over time.
I realize that you might have different views, and that might be something that is not going to change at this point. But perhaps you should both sit down and re-examine what the Bible says. The truth is not afraid of investigation, and one or the other of you will turn out to be right--or maybe you will discover new truth as you read.
But it is not to be lightly passed over that you believe differently on some of the most important issues in your life--especially ones so practical as
1. What you eat
2. Where you go to church
3. what you will teach your children., etc.
Am I saying these things are more important than the gospel? By no means. But it has been many couples' experience that after years and years of disagreements on these issues marriage becomes difficult.
Love is a wonderful thing. Emotional euphoria is also. I don't know where you are at, and I won't presume to know. But the decision of who to marry is about more than who you feel great about. You need to make sure that you can agree on the most important things in life.
Wouldn't you want to minister together? Go to church together? Don't you want to know the people that are important to her spiritual life in her church? These are not small issues. And all we are saying is that you might want to rethink what your life will look like if you continue at this point.
Taking time to both go over BOTH of your beliefs again, together, can certainly not hurt.
As to the jewish sacrificial system, and the effects of Jesus' death on them it is quite clear that Jesus' death did away with the sacrificial system.
The question then becomes, did the seventh-day, established at creation, depend on the Jewish sacrificial system? I would find that a bit hard to believe since the Sabbath command goes back to creation. And the Sabbath day was instituted BEFORE sin, or any need for a sacrificial system.
I will stop here, if you want more information on the topic, I will be happy to post.
Rather than look at this as a way to lose your wife to be, please look at it as an opportunity for both of you to re-examine what you believe about the GOD you love foremost.
As to other worlds, I have seen texts used to support this idea, but I know of no definitive statement in the Bible that would support this idea in a way that would be convincing to you. If others do, that would be helpful. But the primary reason that we believe that is because we accept the concept of the spiritual gift of prophecy, and we believe that the prophetic insight of Ellen White on the topic, while not spelled out in the Bible, was certainly not contradicted by the Bible either.
I do not at all expect you to accept the ministry of EGW before you have even examined her writings. So to me that issue would not even be one of importance until you take a fair look at what she wrote.
Theone, I do not think that the issue is whether we care. The issue is that we care for the long term. My mom and dad were from different churches, and they didn't care either about the differences. But by the time I was born, neither of them were anything.
My sister in law followed that same plan. They are now divorced PARTLY because of it. Certainly they made other bad choices. But you cannot belive that over time you will not have some contact with her church if she is at all faithful to it. And it is likely to grind on your nerves over time.
I realize that you might have different views, and that might be something that is not going to change at this point. But perhaps you should both sit down and re-examine what the Bible says. The truth is not afraid of investigation, and one or the other of you will turn out to be right--or maybe you will discover new truth as you read.
But it is not to be lightly passed over that you believe differently on some of the most important issues in your life--especially ones so practical as
1. What you eat
2. Where you go to church
3. what you will teach your children., etc.
Am I saying these things are more important than the gospel? By no means. But it has been many couples' experience that after years and years of disagreements on these issues marriage becomes difficult.
Love is a wonderful thing. Emotional euphoria is also. I don't know where you are at, and I won't presume to know. But the decision of who to marry is about more than who you feel great about. You need to make sure that you can agree on the most important things in life.
Wouldn't you want to minister together? Go to church together? Don't you want to know the people that are important to her spiritual life in her church? These are not small issues. And all we are saying is that you might want to rethink what your life will look like if you continue at this point.
Taking time to both go over BOTH of your beliefs again, together, can certainly not hurt.
As to the jewish sacrificial system, and the effects of Jesus' death on them it is quite clear that Jesus' death did away with the sacrificial system.
The question then becomes, did the seventh-day, established at creation, depend on the Jewish sacrificial system? I would find that a bit hard to believe since the Sabbath command goes back to creation. And the Sabbath day was instituted BEFORE sin, or any need for a sacrificial system.
I will stop here, if you want more information on the topic, I will be happy to post.
Rather than look at this as a way to lose your wife to be, please look at it as an opportunity for both of you to re-examine what you believe about the GOD you love foremost.
As to other worlds, I have seen texts used to support this idea, but I know of no definitive statement in the Bible that would support this idea in a way that would be convincing to you. If others do, that would be helpful. But the primary reason that we believe that is because we accept the concept of the spiritual gift of prophecy, and we believe that the prophetic insight of Ellen White on the topic, while not spelled out in the Bible, was certainly not contradicted by the Bible either.
I do not at all expect you to accept the ministry of EGW before you have even examined her writings. So to me that issue would not even be one of importance until you take a fair look at what she wrote.
Thanks for the reply,
Yeah the more I hear that the more it hurts to know that I could lose her. Maybe it is for the best. But why would God put her in my life if he knew I was going to get attached to her?
I dont want us to fight and argu in the long run, but I dont think it would really come to that. But I understand what you are saying.
I do go to church with her on saturdays, and on sunday I go to my church. I do notice that she rarely goes to mine but thats because she works on sundays.
I just dont understand why God would even let me like her and get to know her. After knowing this I wish I would not have meet her, not because I dont like her, but because I care about her and to know that is the end result of us having differnt belifs or it COULD be a possible outcome it bothers me.
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: My girlfriend is 7th day adventist and
theone wrote:
I'm a none demonination christian. I started noticing a few thing different that we belive in but for me if where both christians thats all that matters. But my mother keeps saying how it wont work etc.
Also my GF told me that if she marries me she will have to denounce her church and have to get re baptised. Is this true? can someone help me out here.
Hello,
I'll share how I've come to learn why God tells us to stay with those who share our beliefs.
First of all, I'm sure you'll agree that God and God alone, knows us best, each one of us. He knows who is best for us as a lifetime companion, we do NOT, trust me on that one ... from experience and seeing so many marriages go bad.
You say why would God allow you to meet her, or give you the feelings of love, emotions, etc ... Just because you 'meet' somebody and start to feel 'emotions' doesn't mean they're the ones who GOD would have you spend your life with. All of us have emotions and feelings, but yet many times they are just that .. feelings. God's way is to choose somebody who in the long run, will blend with you, will compliment you, like nobody else would.
The first thing we need to do is pray for the Lord to guide us in our search for that partner, NOT use our own feelings and wisdom. Trust me again, when I say .. our own wisdom is NOT to be trusted without his guidance.
We will many times, have to put feelings aside for God and to do what's right .. not what FEELS right. The end result is much more important, if you are to be totally happy with the woman God has in mind for you.
We should 'watch' and 'observe' the one we are becoming attached to, talk about what they believe in, what Biblical ways they follow and make SURE you share the same ... because trust me .. later on, it WILL matter, VERY VERY much so!
It may hurt, if we discover this person isn't who God chooses, but we need to realize that many times in this world ... we will have to deny self and perhaps go thru hurt and pain ... to do the right thing. God loves you, and he loves her .. and he KNOWS way ahead of you, if you two are meant to be together .. if HE wants you together.
Ask Him ... sincerely ask him. Then watch, listen, talk and observe. Don't just go by feelings, go by the truth, His word.
It's much better to have to part now, than years later .. perhaps as enemies with children involved, and allot more pain.
It's not all about us ... it's about what God wants, and what will bring him honor .. but He really truly DOES want you happy ... and just as we parents have to say no to our children, God has to say no to us sometimes too.
By the way, God doesn't always 'bring' you together and hand you those emotions ... WE are totally responsible to 'control' and use His wisdom for our emotions and decisions.
I wish you love and happiness, but ask God WHO would give you that best.
Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:22 am Post subject: Jus my view
da way i see it is... well im 13
wot religion do you want your kids to be??
look at examples in the bible and in peeples lives of whats happened to them wen they get married to non-christians...
if thats wot you want then ill be praying...but if thats not wot you want then its time to go GF looking and praying.
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