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FreedomJournal fanatical cultist

Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 26 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:12 am Post subject: RACE AND GOD |
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Greetings Brethren,
It is a crying shame that many relish and wallow in a destructive discussion regarding the ethnic origins of Jesus and the Prophets. But those that offer the defense for a Black Or White Jesus distort the Bible and are not pleasing to God. Let it be written that the righteous come to please God. THEREFORE DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT GOD IS PLEASED WITH ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE RACE AND COLOR OF HIS SON THE SAVIOR OF HUMANKIND?
For the record Jesus came to save the entire world from sin. Jesus did not come bearing the fruits of Christianity and a way for the transition from the Old to the New for a certain race or color of people. The FreedomJournal hereby declares that race as it relates to Jesus is only of any importance in refuting the lies of a White Jesus.
For the sake of Peace and Harmony among all people Jesus is not Black nor is Jesus White. Also, why involve ourselves in an endless discussion of Black or White Jews. Although Jesus came as a human with Divine attributes, he must remain non-racial. Black people don't play the spite game because of White ignorance and racism. As we all know anyone can be ignorant and Blacks can also be racists.
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton writing for FreedomJournal August 28, 2002 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
RACE & GOD
(BLACK NOR WHITE)
INTRODUCTION
In the name of Jehovah God, Master of the universe, Ruler of the earth.
My dearly beloved Brethren we greet you in the name of our Father, His Son our Savior Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. We thank God today for His many blessings and the message that he has rendered to us and the people of God. In a humble and sincere manner we note at the outset of this discussion and/or Introduction that God is not concerned about Race. However man in his wickedness and economic greed is concerned about Race.
Therefore, the FreedomJournal will post a series of articles noting the reality of this question. Meanwhile simply man and not God has placed Race in the discussion of "Is Jesus Black?" Also man and not God has caused many to argue for the ethnic identity of the Great Prophets and Apostles. However, who raises these questions?
Bear with us Brethren as we move into this discussion. We do not want to insult anyone but the Truth often renders a blow that is a "Wake up Call" and sometimes a "Call of Denial." The godless raise questions about the race and color of Jesus. Also, many Afro-Centric scholars raise these questions. Confused Christians raise these questions and various other mis-informed people throughout this land and country and the world.
At this point we will note the second most important fact regarding this discussion (The first was God is not concerned with Race). Who is qualified to raise the ethnic question regarding things Spiritual? The Bible scholar and those that are truly saved and follow True Christianity. This last statement from the analysis of the FreedomJournal leaves the multitudes out of the sphere of arguing pro or con. Also there should be no argument regarding the race of Jesus etc. as we will note.
Those that follow the Truth of the Bible know that God is no respecter of persons. Therefore we are taught to love all people regardless of race, creed, color are station in life. This list also includes our enemies and those that attempt to refute Christianity and all things Spiritual. In this case those that argue that Jesus is Black or White and render long dialogues to support their statements are not of God.
For example many of these people are students of the Black Experience thus they have come to realize that God and Christianity have impacted greatly on the Black Experience. This is good but what is bad is that they are not qualified to discuss or write about the Black Experience as it relates to Religion and/or Christianity if they are not True Christians.
For example the FreedomJournal is on record noting that Muslims are best suited to critique Islam. Non-Muslims can note a superficial analysis of Islam but the devout and sincere Muslim has the tools necessary to bring up for review a more logical list of questions and concerns than a mere historian are so-called Afro-Centric Scholar or a European steeped in Imperialism and the mood of the Colonial Masters.
The same things holds true for Christianity. As Christians we also note that there are many people that ascribe to a man-made version of Christianity. These people are just as Foolish as the unbeliever when they attempt to speak or write on God and Race. These are the people that are most confused because they don't realize what the Bible teaches. Thus they move from a human understanding and a point of departure noted in the history of mankind and not the essence of the Bible and God.
For the record we have previously noted that the Bible does not support the use of images of Jesus, nor the Prophets or Apostles. However, many still are confused. We are not so naive to realize that many will forever be confused until the Day of Judgment when every knee will bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus is Lord. So for the sake of those that seek knowledge, and Truth we will render a more detailed discussion on this question.
We as always are bound by the Holy Spirit. But we hope to begin with a discussion on God the Spirit which is non-racial. What is the essence or importance of those once chosen as God's people? Was this a choice of race, religion, was it for a reason and a season? Ever present in the minds of the Blacks that pursue the ethnic origins of Jesus is that White people have promoted a White Jesus. Why the Black and Why the White? Just why did White people promote a lie and just why did Blacks come along and take a lie to justify things not of God.
There is also the question of White and Black Supremacy that rises up out of the various lies about Jesus and the Prophets. Just what is this Supremacy and why does it exist? Also a critical concern whenever there are questions on the Black and White side we see questions of Black Unity. Are the questions regarding God and Race raised by Blacks an attack on Unity? Who profits from the lack of Black Unity? Is it a possibility that someone or thing breeds questions of Black Dis-Unity? Do unbelievers actually know the power and mood of Satan.
Cont. Part 2: God The Spirit: Non-Racial _________________ The FreedomJournal does not believe in the Censorship of our enemies and those that do not agree with us. |
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FreedomJournal fanatical cultist

Joined: 17 Oct 2002 Posts: 26 Location: Murfreesboro, TN
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Posted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 5:21 pm Post subject: God The Spirit: Non-Racial |
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Greetings Brethren,
Many still come with hearts of spite and short-sighted responses to age-old racism and lies. Peace to the Truth Seekers that come in peace, seeking harmony among the world's people that only One God our Father created.
Beware that discrimination rests among all people Black or White. White lies do not make Black blasphemy Right. Peace unto all of God's children. The love of God is noted in the love of God's people and not the love of pride.
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton writing for the FreedomJournal September 3, 2002 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
RACE AND GOD
(BLACK NOR WHITE)
Part 2: God The Spirit: Non-Racial.
In the name of Jehovah God, Master of the universe, Ruler of the earth.
As we pursue the questions regarding Race and God and more especially the race or color of Jesus we would be remiss if we did not describe God. God is the Father of Jesus and all of humankind. Also, God cannot be noted as to race.
Therefore those that are not Bible readers that often come to raise certain questions are confused. For the record many people are confused about God and the Bible that are not students of the Bible. But the greatest confusion exists when these same people attempt to note what "they think the Bible says" about a particular question. For example the various scriptures that note the ethnic or racial make-up of the Prophets or Apostles. Also the scriptures that imply the ethnic origins of Jesus.
Any Bible reader should be aware that Jesus was a Hebrew and one of the Jewish Faith that came to order the transition of Judaism to Christianity. However the discussion about whether these Hebrews/Jews were Black is not of God. For the record none of the people in the days of the Old or New Testament prior to the Apostles taking the Gospel to Europe where European. Therefore the geographical record that has a great impact on race or color during this time is clearly noted.
Meanwhile, the Bible does not offer us an explicit or formal definition of God. But we see the presence of God on every page of the Bible. Then how is God described or defined? The most noted definitive quality and statement that pertain to God is "God is a Spirit, infinite, eternal, and unchangeable, in his being, wisdom, power, holiness, justice, goodness, and truth."
The meaning of God as a Spirit means that God is a non-material personal being, self-conscious and self-determining. Often in contemporary non-Christian culture the Biblical personal meaning of "Spirit" is commonly denied. This denial is seen in the Spirit of God and things of a Spiritual nature. (See John 4:24 God is a Spirit).
God is infinite. Thus, God is without limits or bounds. He is eternal. But the infinity of God is not an independent attribute. We must be specific. If not we would then suggest that God is everything like those that are Pantheistic. For the record Pantheism is the belief that God and the universe are identical. The doctrine that God does not exist as a personality but is rather the expression of the physical forces of nature.
Hence when we note the infinite being of God, it is revealed that God is everywhere. This omnipresence of God means that wherever we are, God himself is there. Therefore, everything in the universe is immediately in the presence of God.
God is infinite in His wisdom. This reveals that God is omniscience. Omniscience means the knowledge of everything as in complete or infinite knowledge. Logically then the word omniscient means God knows all. In the Bible we see God's omniscience as all-inclusive, and not dependent upon discursive processes.
God is infinite in his power. He controls all power that is or can be. God is infinite in His holiness, justice and goodness. Holiness is related and applied to God. Regarding the scriptures holiness is associated with the ideas of purity and righteousness. Prior to the Prophetic and long before the New Testament holiness was noted as of God. Meanwhile what was evident in Old Testament writings became clearly explicit in the New Testament. We see holiness, goodness and justice as the basic moral and ethical character of God. Justice is seen in the rendering of rewards and punishments. While goodness indicates His love, grace and His special grace in saving sinners.
God is infinite in His Truth. This is the attribute that all of logic rests upon. The FreedomJournal is currently also posting a series on the Methodology For Obtaining Truth." This series of articles speak directly to the omniscient presence of God as all knowing. In this all knowing being we see that for humankind to be able to reach the ultimate Truth of the human mind one must know God.
It is impossible for God to lie see: (Hebrews 6:18 and Titus 1:2). The inspired writers consistently appeal to Truth of God's character see: (11 Timothy 2:13, "He cannot deny himself").
Infinite then apples to all of the specified attributes. So does the words eternal and unchangeable. Eternal in the Bible means, without temporal beginning or ending. In a figurative sense, eternal may designate a quality of being suitable for eternity. Unchangeable in Bible language, points to the perfect self-consistency of God's character throughout eternity.
God is also known in His acts. His divine character and eternal power are known and clearly seen by the things he has made. (See Romans 1:20). "The heavens the glory of God (see Psalms 19 and Romans 10:18).
Cont. Part 3: God & Fellowship: Godliness
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