An Impressive Dream...

dedication · Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2004 4:40 pm Post subject: A Different Interpetation

Interesting subject--

Steve wrote:

--I began to search the Web in earnest for a concise explanation or exegesis--
Web might not be the best place to search? However, you also searched elsewhere-- that is good.

I found this Forum and Web site through a Google search, which plopped me into Eugene’s treatise on Daniel 11, and found what seemed to me at the time to be a revolutionary concept....But, (and it’s a large BUT) there were certain details of this interpretation that were not in accordance with historical Adventism.--
Yes, the interpretation is not in accordance with historical Adventism. Keep that thought in mind.

---I was pleading daily (really hourly) for God to show me His will ---
Good thing to do! And I believe God answered your prayer.

---I had had an important dream---

OK, I wonder if the webmaster will allow for a different interpretation to the dream than the ones previously given on this forum???

---I was driving on a beautiful, winding country road. There were magnificent green trees all along the way, and shafts of sunlight were permeating the greenery at intervals. It was exceedingly peaceful.---

Notice that the road you were ON, was the one with magnificent green trees and sunlight.
It appears YOU WERE in the SDA church, you believed the HISTORIC doctrines of the church and they were filled with "light" and good!

---I came to a street or long driveway intersecting upon my right, and pulled the car off the road to take a look. The road led quite a way to a rather large building that had an ominous feel to it. The building itself was not unusual—just a single-story, normal-looking office style. I often pulled over and looked at this building on my way home, just as I was then. There was just something about it that wasn’t quite right;----

O.K you were on the Adventist road and came across another intersecting road, you pulled off the your road to look at an ALTERNATIVE philosophy!
Now remember you're FIRST impression when coming across the "many senerio interpretation"
"But, (and it’s a large BUT) there were certain details of this interpretation that were not in accordance with historical Adventism."

Ahh, you were driving down "Adventist Lane" and found a different road-- and you were at first haunted that it was NOT in accordance with basic Adventist prophetic teaching.

---It seemed that there was an inordinate amount of security and secrecy there ---

Watch what happens to this post. I can almost quarantee that it will end up in one of the "lower" levels on this forum, if it is allowed to stay at all. Remember it was originally posted in the "High Ranking Revelation" thread in answer to your questions about your dream.

---After I arrived home, I received an unexpected phone call from a ‘whistle-blower’ from the institution that I had paused to look at. The person told me that he would come to my house later that evening with “undeniable proof” of a concealed, dangerous corporate or governmental cover-up---

The person from that "off the road" institution would come to you and tell you the church --the Seventy-day Adventist church-- you were in was bad, and would convince you.

------He appeared at the house with a protective body suit, not unlike a suit for radiation or biohazard workers, and left it with me. The understanding that I had from the stranger’s visit was that if experts examined the suit, all mysteries regarding the strange activities at the plant would be blown wide open.----

Now remember this "whistle blower" CAME FROM the "off the road institute", he did NOT come from the "road" upon which you were traveling.
The dream mentioned that if you really examined his "suit" the mysteries of the "off the road" plant would be blown wide open.

I noticed that the sun began to rise in the east: a beautiful, peaceful, miraculous sunrise. I was thrilled to my soul..The sun is rising at midnight!” as if it was a forgotten something that I remembered was supposed to happen just that way. But, even as I was yelling that out, I was a bit confused as to what I was shouting, since I distinctly knew that it was 2:00 AM, and the sun was definitely rising. It seemed that my mouth was speaking its own words, divorced from my mind’s thoughts.

The multiple scenerio concept seemed very sweet to you. Yet in your heart YOU KNOW something is wrong. It doesn't add up.

---It reminded me of a large version of the workings of an older-style mechanical odometer in a car. I knew immediately as I saw it, that it was the day/date of Jesus’ coming.---
The day and the hour is set, my friend.
The prophecies cannot be swept under the table as "well those were plan A" or plan B and next plan C.
The prophecies are one coherant prophecy leading forward TO THE SET DAY OF THE LORD'S COMING.

Bob's confirmation:

---He was studying the Bible's Daniel and the Revelation very intently, and also the books: Daniel and the Revelation by Uriah Smith, and The Great Controversy by E.G. White----
He too, was on the ROAD, of Adventism.

---As it began, he was standing on a high place. It was flat, and he was standing in the center of a circularly arranged grouping of tall pillars. Standing at his right side, there was a tall angel, who directed his attention to an object just in front of him. There, just before him, he saw a cylindrical horizontal object, maybe a foot long, with spinning numbers. (At about this time I began flipping out, but didn't let on why...) He watched the numbers spinning by, and described it as "time was passing by with the numbers" as he watched. Then the numbers stopped spinning, displaying a number--I don't believe that he knew with certainty that it was a date. He believes that the angel then said: "There is a determined time..."

Yes, there is A DETERMINED TIME--

To me it is so plain that God sent these dreams to warn you to stay on the road of Adventist endtime interpretation and not go off the road after something new and different.

There is A DETERMINIED TIME
and prophecy all points TO THAT TIME.

The "alternate senerios" tend to undermine prophecies that are important to understand as they pretain to us and to the undergirding of the doctrines which we believe.

spozzie · Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:23 am Post subject: A couple of questions

Hi Steve

I have read this thread with great interest! Your story about your dream is certainly gripping reading and the comments from others are intriguing.

I do have a couple of question if you would be kind enough to respond:

1) I notice that Dedication's alternative interpretation of your dream was posted on 26 November 2004 and there has been no response to it that I can see. I'm just wondering what you thought of it.

2) I'm wondering why a God-given dream is not easier to interpret than it seems to be. Surely if your dream is so important to understand, God would explain its meaning to you as well? Why is it necessary to "guess" the interpretation of the dream by calling for ideas from others? Is this the normal way that God would reveal something to a person?

I look forward to your thoughts.

Thanks

Spozzie

Steve Starman

Hi Spozzie,

I'm truly happy that you've read my tome-like posts! I hope that I can give reasonably short and well-reasoned answers to your questions.

Please feel free to make this a discussion, if you don't mind that my answers usually come as quickly as glaciers move. Embarassed

spozzie