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chrismalan
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Recognizing a true prophet is easy Reply with quote

Eugene Shubert wrote:

Being able to test prophets accurately is a matter of the heart.


Oh man! You are opening yourself to every kind of con man and woman. Feelings are not reliable.

This world can be divided into two - technical and non-technical. The last includes philosophy, sociology and some other things.

Technology can only be built on reality. Technologically the world has made amazing advances. I don't even have to give examples.

The non-technical side of the world builds on ideas, feelings and how people want things to be. People who cannot govern themselves are dying of malnutrition and continuous fighting amongst themselves by the hundreds of thousands. This in countries that used to export food and had no widespread malnutrition. But it is right that everyone should be independent and governing themselves - even if it kills them.

In the USA you brought back capital punishment after a 20 year experiment with the ideal condition where the state does not take lives. It became painfully obvious that the ideal was not working.

Morally the world is going to hell in a handcart. Honesty is at an all-time low. Church attendance is at an all time low in the developed countries. In many places church buildings have been put to other use.

Hitler told the Germans they were the best and that it was their destiny to rule the world. Most followed him because he told them what they wanted to hear. A bit of factual research on population sizes, resources and the nature of all the world they wanted to conquer would quickly have told them Hitler's ideas were crazy. But they went with their hearts. The rest is bloody history.

No, mate. Get away from feelings. A simple experiment can quickly demonstrate their unreliability. Build on fact. Our facts are in the Bible.

Chris
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've reviewed many relevant Scripture references on the subject of how to test a prophet yet you seize on my use of the word "heart."

You say that you are a Seventh-day Adventist. May I suggest that you go to the Official Ellen G. White Website and read what the Adventist prophet says about the heart. I'll only list one familiar statement that most Seventh-day Adventists should recognize.

Ellen G. White wrote:
All true obedience comes from the heart. It was heart work with Christ. And if we consent, He will so identify Himself with our thoughts and aims, so blend our hearts and minds into conformity to His will, that when obeying Him we shall be but carrying out our own impulses. The will, refined and sanctified, will find its highest delight in doing His service. When we know God as it is our privilege to know Him, our life will be a life of continual obedience. Through an appreciation of the character of Christ, through communion with God, sin will become hateful to us. EGW, The Desire of Ages, page 668.
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