Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2004 3:38 pm Post subject: Equidistant Letter Sequences
Truthseeker,
I don't read Hebrew nor do I believe in unsubstantiated rumors. I'm certain that the false prophets are deceiving you. All the alleged prophecies you cite were "discovered" after the fact. Give me some real prophecies of things just about to happen. Please translate them into proper English.
The original secret code theory was published in a professional journal on mathematical statistics; and mathematicians and statisticians took the time to investigate it fairly and debunk it thoroughly [1][2]. Mathematicians are still the most qualified to verify or refute secret codes and contending theories. I don't believe that you've accurately represented what the academicians are saying.
Mathematicians should judge mathematical arguments. Prophets should come under the purview of Biblical tests. Do their predictions come to pass? (Deuteronomy 18:22). What is the character of their message? (Deuteronomy 13:1-3, Jeremiah 23:16-18,21-22).
Jesus explained about the fruit of false prophets. Bringing confusion is an evil fruit. Falsifying evidence is an evil fruit. I see nothing godly or coherent at Biblecodedigest.com.
You are correct in saying that mathematicians are best qualified to judge the validity of these codes. However, their opinion is divided. Just as physicysts would be best to judge the Big Bang, they are, however, divided (though WE all know the truth). Perhaps you do have a point regarding the confusion, however. Though I lean toward the codes being valid, perhaps it is best that they be left alone if they cause division or confusion among God's people.
Posted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:07 am Post subject: Final Remark
You implored me to give you some unfulfilled prophecy from the Bible code. It has been predicted by the code that in 2005 there will be a chemical attack on Israel, death toll approaching 15K. In 2006, there will be a nuclear strike on New York. Only time will tell.
You are correct in saying that mathematicians are best qualified to judge the validity of these codes. However, their opinion is divided. Just as physicysts would be best to judge the Big Bang, ...
Mathematicians aren't divided by mathematics. I'm very confident of that; I have a degree in math so I think I should know. Please test the lies you're circulating. Where's your concealed list of out of the mainstream mathematicians who believe in secret Bible codes? Let's compare that very short list with the anti-secret Bible code list of actual working mathematicians. [3].
What physicists believe about esoteric theories is inapplicable to this discussion because, when it comes to highly inaccessible physics, physicists are guided largely by their own ignorant and pompous pretensions.
truthseeker wrote:
You implored me to give you some unfulfilled prophecy from the Bible code. It has been predicted by the code that in 2005 there will be a chemical attack on Israel, death toll approaching 15K. In 2006, there will be a nuclear strike on New York.
This is a powerful argument against the secret code prophets. You've read that God has predicted an upcoming 15 thousand chemical deaths in Israel and a nuclear strike on New York and the news doesn't even qualify to make the front page of Biblecodedigest.com.
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 10:28 am Post subject: *shrug*
*shrug* Eugene, the points you made are pretty much inconsequential. IT is quite obvious to be that you are not concerned with finding truth, but with preserving the lies of the SDA. I have given you what you asked for, I believe these things will happen as stated, but they may not. If they do not, I will be able to admit the codes as false. If they do, will you be able to accept them?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 11:34 am Post subject: Re: preserving, protecting & sheltering lies & liars
Dear Truthseeker,
Why do you say that I'm not interested in finding truth? I'm dying to learn why a certain, upcoming 15 thousand chemical deaths in Israel and a nuclear strike on New York doesn't qualify to make the front page of Biblecodedigest.com. Why is that inconsequential?
I will definitely accept that somebody is a prophet if just one of these events takes place. Who would that be? It seems that you have no interest in answering an obvious follow-up question and that you can't imagine why anyone would want to confirm that your words are a real Bible code prophet prediction. How is my inquiry unreasonable?
Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 12:15 pm Post subject: Isaac Newton Society
The reason that it does not make front page at biblecodedigest.com is this. IT is run by the Isaac Newton Research Society. They are not necessarily concerned with alerting people to potential dangers n things like that. They are far more concerned with proving that the code violates any probablity. This is why the codes posted on their site are generally fairly lengthy, as opposed to the codes in Drosin's book, which are short an pretty lame. Who is the Bible code prpophet you ask? My answer to this would have to be God. I would also have top state that if these codes do prove accurate it is undeniable proof that the bible could not have been authored by men, as these codes stretch from one book to another, a single letter being off would invalidate the entire code. I believe that, if the code is really there, God put it there for anyone to discover, I don't know that He had anyone in particular in mind, but perhaps I am wrong.
Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2004 9:51 am Post subject: Where are the corroborative testimonies?
Dear Truthseeker,
Don't trust those "mediums and wizards, who whisper and mutter." Can you stop sipping Babylon's maddening wine long enough to understand my question? I want to confirm that your words are a real Bible code prophet prediction. Please list the experts from the ELS community who have checked, ratified and endorsed your horrible message about New York and Israel. You say that the source of the message is God. I want to know who the witnesses are. Fact checking isn't a sin.
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