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But Eugene I don't even know what they teach on the 7 seals.
So you've forgotten that you were taught the 7 seals by the Shepherd's Rod cult?
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Their so called prophet was led astray from reading an article in the Signs Of The Times by Taylor Bunch in the late 1920s.
Just as you were led astray by reading and imbibing the Shepherd's Rod nonsense on the 7 seals.
Ed White wrote:
If I was in doubt of one minor point on this truth of the 7 seals being the Investigative Judgment, then I would return to my closet and plead my case to God alone.
The strength of your delusion is not a Biblical test.
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They did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12.
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What, I ask, can be the end? Again and again have I asked this, and I have always received the same instruction, Never leave a soul unwarned. Those who are bound in Satan's coils are the most confident and the most boastful. They will protest at the thought that they are ensnared, yet it is the truth. Ellen G. White, Battle Creek Letters, page 128.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2004 12:22 am Post subject:
Eugene this a pretty serious charge you have just made, with you KNOWING I oppose almost everything the Shepherd Rod teach. If there was any semblance of truth to anything you have said, I would give it some thought but will only recognize it as a diversion on your part to protect your over the hill studies. How about you refrain from this name calling that you have used with success among the fearful & pliable and examine with your bible open on what I have said on the 7 seals instead of what you THINK I should say?
You refuse to pick at flaws in my few words above because there is none. You remind me of the labor union thugs that arrive at a construction job-site in a limo with dark windows. You roll the window down half way, throw a few rock, then burn rubber for 100 yards. Come down and let’s reason this out. How about you picking these words apart??? You can even call in re-enforcement if you file cabinet has fungus & is moth eaten.
Let’s take a look Eugene where these 7 seals are found in Revelation 5 & 6, but you and others may ask, is it really necessary for us now living to understand this fifth chapter? "The fifth chapter of Revelation needs to be closely studied. It is of great importance to those who shall act a part in the work of God for these last days". 9 Testimonies 267.
Just prior to penning the above words, the paragraph before says, "What will such a one do in the day that the books are opened and every man is judged according to the things written in the books?" 9 Testimonies 266.
Some may choose to speculate about this book in the hand of him that sat on the throne saying, "it is the book of life". Is there more in this book than just the names of those who professed to serve Jesus? "Thus the Jewish leaders made their choice. Their decision was registered in the book which John saw in the hand of Him that sat on the throne, the book which no man could open. In all its vindictiveness their decision will appear before them in the day when this book is unsealed by the Lion of the tribe of Judah." Christ's Object Lessons 294. See how plain this becomes? This book is a book of deeds of the professed people of God. The wicked, their judgment will begin during those 1000 years in heaven by the saints who will qualify by being redeemed themselves, taken to heaven without seeing death at Jesus second coming, or they will be raised at the last trump when Jesus says those healing words "...awake, awake, awake, ye that sleep in the dust, and arise!" Great Controversy 644.
Rev.5:9 tells us that the four beast and the twenty four elders came from planet earth. They were "redeemed". Heaven needed to take the 24 elders to heaven in AD 31 to sit as a double jury. [Grand jury] “Out of the mouth of 2 witness let anything be established...” Why Eugene these 24 Elders deciding our fate today, remembers when they lived on this earth among all of Satan's deceptions and his ability to twist God's ever so clear instructions. Just for that reason alone I am very thankful that someone with that kind of integrity will have an active part as my actions are being examined.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:08 am Post subject:
After reading the truthfulness of the above words, I am thinking of the honest in heart that may have got a glimps of this truth for the first time and are in a delima of what to do with their previous faulty instruction? Remember that all of Jesus's biddings are enabeling. He will provide instruction on how to weed out spurious material.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 3:31 pm Post subject:
Dzien, just wondering why you don't open your bible to THIS SUBJECT?
Has someone put restrictions on you, do you have handcuffs or those platic zip tie downs? If I have departed from inspiration someone should know it. That the only reason I said something about Eugene position on the 7 seals is because I know what the bible says. Don't hide back in the bushes to long, there is fungus & mildew back in there.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2004 11:58 am Post subject:
Just wondering if those of us that are in jail are more sane than the jail keepers? Or those that refuse to open their bible to this subject, are they the ones that will someday be traveling from the East to the West in search of truth, but shall not find it when there is a famine in the land?
I was told that the words to the song "How great Thou art" was scratched with a nail on a plaster wall inside a jail cell. And of coure the words of John Bunyon from that JAIL CELL in England and his book that is read by millions.
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