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Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 12:50 pm Post subject: Concerning The Ends of Time
Concerning the "ends of time" of which the bible speaks, well one of them which is the first one is when God the Father speaks from His throne at the beginning of the 7th plague. [Rev.16:17] As soon as He speaks this will trigger the "great earthquake" where island chains will start sinking, and mountains plucked up by the root will be cassed into the sea. His mighty voice will deliver the 144,000 [ALONE] that are scheduled to die at midnight all over the one worlds goverment world. The 144,000 are immediately glorified as they watch the graves open up of their friends & loved ones that have died since 1844. This group also receive glorified bodies [GC 645] to be on this earth "a number of day" until Jesus comes back to raies the rest of the dead. That will be another "ends of the world". The third "ends of the world" is AFTER the 1000 years and this world is burned up in the lake of fire where the beast will be throw seperate from the "false prophet" which has yet to appear. However all those that think themself high and lifted up TODAY in their mortal state will also feel that fire.
Posted: Mon May 17, 2004 1:19 pm Post subject: multiple prophetic scenarios
Hi Ed White,
It seems that you totally misunderstand the purpose of this thread. The Ends of Time is a Bible Commentary available online confirming a revelation I've received about multiple prophetic scenarios. The commentary is a marvelous collection of many jewels, brilliant and dazzling, too numerous to count.
Click on this link for pertinent background information.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 10:11 am Post subject:
But Eugene, suppose I am one of these people that have seen evidence that I, for a committee of one, should not trust my salvation to a comentary? What is wrong in allowing the bible to be it's own expositor? God tells us in His written word that He has personally "preserved" it for my generation that I need "not be ashamed". Glory be to God just for that fact alone.
Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 2:23 pm Post subject: Is your complaint imaginary or completely applicable?
Ed,
The commentary follows the principle of interpretation that the Bible is its own expositor. I am not asking you to trust any exposition of the Scriptures. Who is insinuating otherwise and why do you think that your complaint is applicable in this instance?
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Tue May 18, 2004 5:44 pm Post subject:
Eugene
Well I spent some time looking at the outline from your link as you see it. Are you saying that this is cast in stone? If so then consider throwing them down and hew out another 2 clean stones and start again from the top. Revelation is nowhere near as complicated as Adventist have been spoon fed to believe.
What is wrong with you using your bible to prove your point by showing me that what I have posted above is not scriptural? I don't want a link to click on, how about something fresh this time, I showed from the bible 3 places where the "ends of the world" apply. The one when the Father speaks from heaven [Rev 16:17] saying "it is done" then after that happens "then commenced the Jubliee" EW 285
A boy in Missouri that has followed a mule & plow for 40 years but reading the bible at night can see my reasoning. He and other like him know that when Jesus spoke to the people that no dictionary was needed by the common people that heard Him gladly. Your is no message anyone con run with. All those rules in your study material to follow and dates to remember. NOT needed at all!!!
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 2:57 am Post subject:
To those with the power at present to control what is said, and WHERE it is said, only confirms a Catholic principle that is a carry over from the Rein of Terror in France during the dark ages. I remember of reading once in the bible of a JAILER & his whole house hold that were baptized from being exposed to the truthfulness of someone with a present truth message. Over the hill long discourses from the church fathers could NEVER quench this JAILERS thirst. So see forum members & truth seekers everwhere, there is hope even for 2004 JAIL keepers. God is so good to send angels right through masonry & seel bars when His messengers need comfort.
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:13 am Post subject: Explain where you're coming from
Ed,
One useful purpose of the jail forum is to display threads that don't make a whole lot of sense. I still don't understand what you're saying about the "ends of time" in your opening post or why you think it belongs to the thread that discusses my book. Isn't the thesis of my book a perspective for which you are totally clueless and one that you have no interest in?
Everyone is welcome to visit those in jail and to investigate why they are there. Will anyone plead for you? The crime charged against you (the reason for your arrest) is the sin of babbling incoherently and appearing to be so intoxicated that you seem unable to carry on a normal conversation. I believe that anyone who reads this thread will see that the charges are valid.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:34 am Post subject:
Eugene
As a Christian I have found out that seeking out to another mortal to "plead for me" would be an insult to heaven. I firmly believe that in all my Masters biddings, He will enable me to fulfill those missions. If I didn't firmly believe that, I would return to the gambling dens and coveting every neighbors wife while sitting in a Laodeacean church condition. If what I have posted above about the "ends of the world" is not understood by your forum members, I would suggest to dig a little deeper from the same sorse I done my homework from. The Bible!
Can I receives an answer from any mortal on this forum with their bibles open to point out my departing from bible truth? I really don't need a reply for my sake however. It's just that I may be hard to find once the famine arrives.
"Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will
send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a
thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:
Chap. 8, Verse 11, [AMO].
And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north
even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the
word of the LORD, and shall not find [it]. Chap. 8, Verse
12, [AMO].
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Wed May 19, 2004 9:51 am Post subject:
I am aware of the example in the bible where the parents of a son that was born blind [that Jesus healed] were afraid to say what they REALLY felt for fear of being thrown in jail or kicked off the "forum".
Quote:
His parents answered them and said, We know that this is
our son, and that he was born blind: Chap. 9, Verse 20,
[JOH].
But by what means he now seeth, we know not; or who hath
opened his eyes, we know not: he is of age; ask him: he
shall speak for himself. Chap. 9, Verse 21, [JOH].
These [words] spake his parents, because they feared the
Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did
confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the
synagogue. Chap. 9, Verse 22, [JOH].
I wonder what it is like to have a belief system that can not stand investigation, or being ashamed of the memory work of the church fathers? I never want to go there!! So don't look for me on thar street.
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Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Thu May 20, 2004 12:58 pm Post subject:
"Throw out the lifeline accross the dark wave, there is a brother someone should save. Somebodys brother, oh who then will dare to throw out the lifeline his peril to spare?"
I can answer that question in that song. Me!! Gladly I'll do this to those out there grasping at straws to stay afloat with mans teachings. But remember honest in heart, there are men among us controling men that's desire is to keep you in a stupor drinking small sips of KoolAde. Refuse this cup!!!
Amen Mr. White, if you're still around to read this since it's been a couple of months since your last post. _________________ I have only one desire now: to do God's will for me. There is no conflict.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:20 pm Post subject:
Hello brother/sister I am here! just wondering what it was that you said "AMEN" about? Did you read the entire thread? If you did then there was much you should discount by that fellow that has stolen that good name of W. Miller. All of my posts are trustworthy, knowing that the recording angels are present and we must be truthful at all cost.
I was referring to your posts Mr. White. We're in good company being in jail, the disciples spent time there, seems nothing's changed in 2000 years. _________________ I have only one desire now: to do God's will for me. There is no conflict.
Joined: 17 May 2004 Posts: 55 Location: California
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2004 10:54 pm Post subject:
Amanah, why you have hardly spoken with only 7 post my child, why are you here in this jail? A few things have changed in 2000 years however, the jail keeper back then was open to receiving new light. Today after hitch-hiking with another mans studies people don't retract that which they now know to be error, truly amazing!
If you are searching for truth as you say and if you know anything about the Historic Adventist, I suggest to listen online to my most recent tape.
"Historic Adventist can run-but they cannot hide"
Go to www.shasta.com/edwhite and look for this message under audiotapes
Happy Sabbath
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