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Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:08 am Post subject: Is Billy Graham a liar?
slan·der (sl˛n“d…r) n. 1. Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
Billy Graham takes a 100 % salary as CEO and works less than 10 %! He is no different than Baptist preacher Rev. Jesse Jackson who also doesn't work for a living and collects a salary!
"I can't stand very well, so I'll have to sit," said Graham, 83, who explained that shunts installed in his brain to drain fluid have left him with an overall numbness. Fort Worth Star Telegram October 16, 2002
Billy Graham and BGEA lied when they stated on a signed BILLY GRAHAM EVANGELISTIC ASSOCIATION Federal I.D, 41-0692230 Form 990 for the year 2000:
Name and Address Billy Graham Montreat. NC
Title & Time Devoted To Position
Director & Chairman 40 hrs/wk
Compensation $174,000
Contribution to employee Benefit plans $19,786
BILLY GRAHAM HAS NOT WORKED 40 HRS A WEEK FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS!
Speaking about liars did you read Nixon, Billy Graham Anti-Semitism on Tape by James Warren Published on Friday, March 1, 2002 in the Chicago Tribune?
Rev. Billy Graham openly voiced a belief that Jews control the American media, calling it a "stranglehold" during a 1972 conversation with President Richard Nixon, according to a tape of the Oval Office meeting released Thursday by the National Archives.
"This stranglehold has got to be broken or the country's going down the drain," the nation's best-known preacher declared as he agreed with a stream of bigoted Nixon comments about Jews and their perceived influence in American life.
"You believe that?" Nixon says after the "stranglehold" comment.
"Yes, sir," Graham says.
"Oh, boy," replies Nixon. "So do I. I can't ever say that but I believe it."
"No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something," Graham replies.
[Nixon speaking]
The best Jews are actually the Israeli Jews."
"That's right," agrees Graham, who later concurs with a Nixon assertion that a "powerful bloc" of Jews confronts Nixon in the media. "And they're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff," Graham adds.
"Well," says Nixon, "it's also, the Jews are irreligious, atheistic, immoral bunch of bastards."
Graham weathering the storm
Evangelist fighting for respect after controversy at the twilight of his career
By Allen G. Breed Associated Press
CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- Billy Graham's birthplace is long gone, hauled off by fallen televangelist Jim Bakker to his now defunct theme park.
All that remains is a stone marker with a bronze relief of Graham, his fiery eyes and square jaw leaping off the plaque.
''Billy Graham is one of the giants of our time,'' reads the 1971 dedication. ''Truly a man of God.''
It's signed by President Richard Nixon.
Today, the great evangelist is haunted by words he said three decades ago to that same president in the presumed privacy of the Oval Office.
At 83, the ailing preacher is weathering a controversy over a newly released tape recording in which he makes disparaging remarks about Jews in a conversation with Nixon.
For some, the comments have all but erased the lifetime of good will Graham had built.
''I fear, and it's with great sadness, that his legacy will be tarnished by this permanently,'' says New York Rabbi James Rudin, past interreligious director of the American Jewish Committee.
But while many are disappointed that a man of Graham's stature would ever utter such words, they feel that the man should be taken for the whole of his actions and deeds.
''Obviously, there are people who are so blinded by single-issue morality that they will say that he is unworthy simply because of that lapse,'' says James Dunn, former director of the Baptist Joint Committee in Washington and a professor at Wake Forest University Divinity School.
On the tapes, Graham's trademark Southern drawl can be clearly heard agreeing with Nixon that left-wing Jews dominate the American media.
''They're the ones putting out the pornographic stuff,'' Graham says, adding: ''This stranglehold has got to be broken or this country's going down the drain.''
''You believe that?'' Nixon asks.
''Yes, sir,'' says Graham.
''Oh boy. So do I,'' Nixon agrees. ''I can't ever say that, but I believe it.''
What surprised many was that Graham didn't just mumble his assent to his powerful friend's complaints about Jews -- he took the conversation a step further.
''Not all the Jews, but a lot of the Jews are great friends of mine, they swarm around me and are friendly to me because they know that I'm friendly with Israel,'' Graham is heard saying. ''But they don't know how I really feel about what they are doing to this country.''
The comments were all the more stinging because Graham had long been considered a staunch friend of the Jewish people. He lobbied for freer emigration of Soviet Jews, castigated Southern Baptists for singling out Jews for conversion and has long supported the state of Israel.
When the tapes first surfaced, Graham issued an apology but said he couldn't remember making the comments.
Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:13 am Post subject: Billy Graham
Hi Wizeseeker, 8O
Although I am shocked at this news, I am not totally surprized. Everyman sin's and make mistakes, whether it be by his words or actions. I myself have said and done things that I wish I could change. I bet you have also. We are all in need of God's grace, including Billy Graham.
I see your point though, that it is an ungodly way to act, but I will remember Billy Graham for the thousands of people that he lead to the Lord, at the same time I remember him as a sinner, no better than you or I.
I do believe, that there were many times when he worked far more than 40 hours. I know that most pastors do, and if his church still chooses to pay him his full salary, than who am I to point a finger. I think the tremendous work that he has done over the years is worth something. I will pray for him and would hope that you would also.
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