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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 12:17 pm    Post subject: Is the Bible Rational? Reply with quote

I noticed in this messageboard that all of you approach things just like a physicist like my husband, however, God do not explain things like you do. He is capable of things beyond our reasonings, logic & explanations. We put God in a box when we try to explain Him in our cubicle of human logic.

As you get to know Him personally, He will reveal things to you that the learned (those who approach things in human logic) will never receive because we put Him in that box. For God is a God of possibilities, there is no boundaries to Him at all. Everything is possible to our limitted human minds. Our perspectives are limitted unlike His, it is as vast as the universe He created.

By the way I graduated in a Seventh day Adventist college way back 1978 & attained my bachelors in nursing. I am aware of Ellen White's writings.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daisy,

It is not denying God's power to discuss what He has chosen to reveal. As I mentioned in my previous post, there are elements of this that He has chosen not to reveal. It is futile to speculate on those. But God did not give us the scriptures so that we could ignore them. Nor is personal revelation a substitute for study of what He has revealed to all men.

We all have strong points. Some ignore study, others downplay God's speaking to us today. Some focus on the theoretical and never live out their faith. But there is nothing wrong with a discussion that really wants to understand more about God. You might have something to contribute in your experiential understanding of God. But you might also have something you can learn from those who are trying to examine the scriptures in a thorough way.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MR. TALL;
You have some good point there.I do not deny that the Bible is the basis of truth for JESUS talk to me through the scriptures..hence it becomes THE LIVING WORD.Actually, that was my first time in so many years of being a christian that these wonderful experience came about.My christian walk at that time is dry & not alive.I came into that point in life that "There Must be Something More than This".I desperately wanted to be REBORN..because one time in our Bible study we talked about THE GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT..& honestly asked myself I DO NOT HAVE THOSE QUALITIES & desperately wanted that in my life.People in my group seem not to have that gift either but they pretend that fact & kept that to themselves even though i truly wanted to know if any of them truly have the GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.JESUS READ WHAT'S ON MY HEART,THUS a series of events led to this wonderful SPIRITUAL JOURNEY OF THE LIFETIME!!

OUR LORD JESUS IS ALIVE!!! & I HAVE EXPERIENCED HIM IN THE MOST INTIMATE WAY.I CAN'T STILL BELEIVE WHAT HAPPENNED TO ME..HE DID NOT ONLY TALKED TO ME AUDIBLY & IN THE SPIRIT,THROUGH THE SCRIPTURE,AND ALSO VISUALLY.I WILL LATER NARRATE THAT MIRACLE.

AT THE HEIGHT OF MY "TESTING & TRIAL"i felt as if the world is in my back.I go to the duck pond here in my hometown to see the beautiful sunset & the beautifful ducks.I was alone that time & remembered very well I shouted at the top of my lungs"LORD JESUS HELP ME!!!!!!!!(5X)..IT STILL BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES EVERYTIME",HE HEARD MY CRIES!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have "nowhere" to run to because "no one" seems to know the right answers. I only run to God for he knows the"whole picture".as I continued my simple faith of trusting Jesus alone.. I kept knocking at heaven's gate for six to seven months. I am so amazed because those pressing problems could have defeated me emotionally & physically, but God's grace have kept me afloat & my energy levels are more than normal despite our situations at home.

We know that ...when we call upon Jesus in times of pressing circumstances, confusion, uncertainty we draw upon the full & limitless resources of heaven. When we cried out to the lord Jesus in urgent , pressing needs as in "SOS" we know that he will come to us bearing all the power of the mighty God. There is only one reason.. It cannot be found in speculation, theorizing, reasonings. It can only be found in experiencing God!! I can likened it to "heaven came down on earth to help me".. Yes, yes, that is exactly the right term. I never expected for him to answer this way!! Oh how wonderful He is!! I feel like dancing, singing for the joy he brings into my life in exchange for all my sorrows.

"Experiencing the lord Jesus Christ in an intimate way is so mind boggling for me!!" Experiencing him alive & his boundless love for me is so amazing up to now I want to "pinch" myself to be sure if it's true!! I tell you people .. It is true & nothing will dissuade me from that extraordinary experience wheher you beleive or not!! But as for me.. I will serve the lord for he cared for me despite my weaknesses. In fact he is sanctifying me daily.

He had promised me that he is working in my children's life & all my family. He wanted for me to come back to that old messageboard so he can use me as his echo.oh boy!! I wrestled with him for quite awhile for i have been maligned, slandered, abused verbally , emotionally & my family was even involved. Yet, He reminded me gently, that He himself suffered "more than I suffered".

It took me awhile before I surrendered for one early morning he woke me up with an intense light hovering my head. I sat up figuring what was going on? I heard Him very clearly in an authoritative voice (hearing it quite loudly in my spirit..my inner man) & I saw visually the very clear blue earth hovering in the ceiling & He told me that he is doing warfare against the dark forces of the earth & as he say that a network is drawn all over the earth covering it (likened to a AT&T commercial with networking lines). He needs me as one of those networking for he is gathering up warriors that will work for him at this very moment..all over the earth!! Then, the apparitions dissapeared!! I was so dumbstruck once again since I have experienced him before (which I narrated earlier)

I hesitated..but He said in my spirit that He will do all the talking all I have to do is type what He (Jesus) put in my mind. The first time I'm back at that board I was so bold & declare things that God wants me to declare. I was so dumbstruck again for in reality I cannot..cannot write a bold stamement like that!! I rejoiced because right now he is in control of that board.. He wanted everyone to know Him as he is..personally & intimately.. that He loved everyone & desired for everyone to be saved.

Listen, people!! God does not wants us to have division (as to whether you are seventh day Adventist, is catholic, a Methodist, Baptist) as a beleiver our goal should be in accord to his alone not our selfish self:

He wants everyone saved!!!!

Take the initiative to reach out to other people whether if they have same faith, different faith or even a wanton sinner!!! For He came not for the righteous but for the sinners!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Is the Bible Rational? Reply with quote

DAISY wrote:
I noticed in this messageboard that all of you approach things just like a physicist like my husband, however, God do not explain things like you do. He is capable of things beyond our reasonings, logic & explanations. We put God in a box when we try to explain Him in our cubicle of human logic.


Hi Daisy

I think it is important to distinguish between logic as a process of thinking and the content of our thinking which we may, or may not, be able to completely understand. It is impossible for any communication to take place, whether it is between humans or between God and humans, without it being rational. I have looked after enough mentally ill people to know that, if a person is irrational, it is almost impossible to communicate with any understanding.

Even you have made your points about rationality using logic such as:

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As you get to know Him personally, He will reveal things to you that the learned (those who approach things in human logic) will never receive because we put Him in that box. For God is a God of possibilities, there is no boundaries to Him at all. Everything is possible to our limitted human minds. Our perspectives are limitted unlike His, it is as vast as the universe He created.


The word for in your paragraph above is known as a reason indicator. What follows is a reason for your previous claim that God will reveal things to some humans which are beyond human logic. Your argument can be stated like this:

1. God is a god of possibilities.
2 There are no boundaries in God.
3. Everything is possible [sic] to our limited minds.
4. Our perspectives are limited.
5. God's perspective is unlimited.

THEREFORE

6. As one gets to know God personally he will reveal things to that individual that are beyond human logic.

I'm wondering whether you would care to answer the following questions for me to clarify your point of view for me:

1. What do you actually mean when you say God is a god of possibilities? Are you saying that God is completely free to choose absolutely anything he wishes without any constraint whatsoever?

2. What do you mean when you say that God has no boundaries? Do you mean that God can do absolutely anything God likes/wishes? If so, I'm wondering what you understand the Bible to mean when it says, for example, that God cannot lie.

3. I'm wondering whether your statement 3 above is correct. Did you mean to say that everything is impossible to our human minds? If that is what you meant, I wonder how that can be right? Didn't God create us with the ability to reason and choose and create? Surely everything is not impossible -- only some things?

4. You say our perspectives are limited. I agree. That means, as I understand it, that we don't know everything -- it doesn't mean that the things that are not known by us are illogical.

5. You say God's perspective is unlimited. I agree. I understand this to mean that God can see and knows everything there is to see and know. It does not mean that God knows things we cannot know because they are illogical.

In your conclusion, you say that God will reveal things to certain people that are beyond logic. What do you mean by 'beyond logic'? I can accept that there might be things we do not know or understand -- but I believe God is completely logical -- in other words, God thinks logically and rationally. There would be nothing more dangerous than a god who was irrational.

I guess that, overall, you seem to be saying that reason and logic are not necessary or even desirable in understanding and knowing about God. But I'm wondering whether we are using the terms logic and reason in the same way. Would it be better to say that there will always be things that we will not know because of our limited perspective and abilities. This seems to me to be a completely different claim than to say that God is beyond logic and/or reason.

I look forward to hearing from you.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been researching for the meaning of CELINE for I have the most AWESOME,INCREDIBLE,PROFOUND vision which our LORD JESUS woke me up early in the morning of APRIL 22,2005 announcing in a magnificent way that HE had chosen me Daisy R.Avecilla(my maiden name)to be in the ministry of PROPHECY.In that vision I saw the announcement in the vivid blue sky with an accompanying music of announcement.It was so incredible!!I cannot beleive my eyes!Then,OUR LORD JESUS SAID;TALKING IN SPIRIT..."I WILL GIVE YOU A NEW NAME...CELINE MEANING THE TRUTH OF MY HEART IS IN YOU!"I am so much elated,excited,overwhelmed by what will this entail in my life.

The LORD JESUS have been preparing me for several years now subjecting me to all CLEANSING & SANCTIFICATION daily.HE had been subjecting me to OBEDIENCE,HUMILITY for in the natural Iam proud,arrogant,know it all .My husband have had the rights to do this because he is really smart,but he is humble however,someone who just want to PLAY SMARTIE like me the LORD JESUS must be laughing at that sin.Yes,Yes..this arrogant,proud human is so humbled by HIS infinite LOVE!I am so embarassed by my actions that the LORD have seen the REPENTANCE OF GREAT MAGNITUDE is in the works.Iam in that stage now!!I am rejoicing for the veil that satan put in my soul is now lifted ...gone..for now i realized my sins & all mistakes I've done.
I am so happy I can dance all day!!
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I forgot to include this one note while that vision is playing a music of announcement likened to an announcement of great importance fireworks can be seen too with the words "you are chosen to be in the ministry of:with the big bold letter PROPHECY AND THE FLASHING PICTURE OF our LORD JESUS ON THE CROSS!It was the most incredible,awesome,experience and for the following days I have this feeling like I'm floating in the cloud of LOVE..INCREDIBLE LOVE FOR GOD.As if I'm a teenager in love only tentimes over!Teresa of Avila in the 16th century termed it RAPTURE OF ECTACY.I have got to know what happenned to me so I have to check if others have the same awesome experience.

As you get to know the LORD JESUS personally & intimately HIS main characteristic is that of LOVE MAGNIFIED & INTENSE as if you have a LOVE AFFAIR with HIM. HIS BRAND OF LOVE IS SO HUGE & MAGNANIMOUS THERE IS NO BOUNDARIES TO IT..A LOVE THAT NO MAN CAN FATHOM that is what i can describe of it.

However,it is not gooey gooey all the time.THIS BUSINESS of working for HIM now I realized,entails SUBMITTING TOTALLY TO HIS WILL NOT TO MY WILL.SEPARATING THE OLD NATURE IS NOT..NOT AUTOMATIC. THE LORD wants a SPOTLESS BRIDE when HE comes to get us so SANCTIFICATION & PURIFICATION IS A BIG MUST for HIM FOR ALL WHO CALL THEMSELVES HIS. OUR LORD JESUS will surface ALL THAT IS NOT OF HIM...&HE will give you that decision daily.If you refuse & insist on your own way HE will give you several warnings...HE will use all mediums available to get your attention.Of course LOGIC will tell you HE won't use the occult cause the enemy uses that.The enemy is there too meddling in between and will throw all sticky situations & temptations at you .TRUSTING GOD is very important for only running to HIM for all your problems & not man will get the job done.OUR LORD JESUS wants us to REPENT DAILY OF OUR SINS & GUARD OUR SALVATION FOR WE ARE TO BE READY ANYTIME!KEEP YOUR THOUGHTS CAPTIVE FOR THE ENEMY IS USING THAT MORE OFTEN THAN YOU KNOW.

BATTLEFIELD OF THE MIND BY Joyce Meyer is a book I highly recommend so you have an idea how this THOUGHT,BELEIF & ATTITUDE plays an important battleground between evil and good.
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JOHN( 14:21)"HE WHO HAS MY COMMANDMENTS & KEEPS THEM...IT IS HE WHO LOVES ME.AND HE WHO LOVES ME WILL BE LOVED BY MY FATHER,& I WILL LOVE HIM & MANIFEST MYSELF TO HIM."

...The LORD Jesus will manifest to ALL PEOPLE who obeys HIM..NOT PARTIALLY but WHOLEHEARTEDLY.HE will only manifest HIMSELF to those who have HUMBLE,CONTRITE SPIRIT.MEANING YOU SAY?A PROUD,HAUGHTY,ARROGANT KNOW IT ALL WILL NEVER...NEVER HEAR GOD'S VOICE for it is CONTRARY TO HIS NATURE.When I was in that state I negate the rights to be intimate with HIM.But,as you learn of HIS ways and really wanted HIM desperately enough..one have to be willing for the conviction of the HOLY SPIRIT..admit your sin,REPENT & ask to be changed.

This is what's on HIS mind on that subject:

..."MY POWERFUL,LIVING WORD IS A VERY SERIOUS MATTER.Many have listened to MY WORD so much but now have become insensitive to what it says.I have said that you need to know the urgency of MY warnings!...I HAVE SAID I WANT MY OWN TO REPENT TO ME DAILY.I want MY OWN to see & confess their own sins directly to me your Jesus...but..but still are not hearing what I AM saying.

THE SINS OF MY PEOPLE ARE OUTWARDLY RIGHTEOUS..BUT FILLED WITH INWARD CORRUPTION.

Just an example:Jealousy,Envy,Competition as to who is the best,Self-exaltation,Pride,Arrogance,Ungorgiveness,Wrong attitudes & beliefs..so on & on.

Taken over by Man's intellect,by man's worldly philosophies & views..ALL APPEALING TO THE HUMAN MIND...NOT..NOT THE MIND OF THE LIVING GOD.It has infiltrated MY WORD & robbed of it's TRUE POWER.

One can DECEIVE anyone you come across but..you have part of ME(your creator)living inside of you.You are MY TEMPLE I RESIDE INSIDE OF YOU that you cannot..cannot DECEIVE ME.I KNOW THE CONTENTS OF YOUR HEART..IT IS LIKE A SEARCH LIGHT looking for things that IS NOT..NOT OF ME.I KNOW THE CONTENTS OF YOUR HEART WHETHER IT IS GOOD OR EVIL.MAKE THAT IMPORTANT DECISION"ARE YOU FOR ME OR AGAINST ME?"
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I'd like to share with you the pictures of MY LORD & I CAUSE I LOVE HIM SO.

Pictures of MY LORD
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There is a special story on that picture of Our LORD.During the height of MY FIERY TRIALS..I felt so alone & numb.I only function normally because instead of succumbming to the gravity of the situation I FOCUS ON THE LORD'S AWESOME POWER TO DELIVER ME.I sang & sang,pray & pray as if there is no tomorrow.I woke up at night & prayed & prayed, cried myself to sleep in the bathroom.There i heard HIS voice telling me that HE wants to comfort me by appearing to me.I was in a quandary for I don't know how to react & besides I looked so awful.I told HIM i was't ready for face to face situation.I ask that he will just send me a realistic picture of HIMSELF so when I have a problem I will just look & be comforted.HE LED me to this picture.I ordered them from the artist & have a canvas picture made.IT LOOKED SO ALIVE & SO REAL IT COMFORTS ME LIKE A BALM WHEN I AM CONFOUNDED WITH PRESSING PROBLEMS.

I like to share a poem that the LORD wrote just this week:

"TRANSFORMED BY THE LIGHT OF MY GLORY"

Strange as it may seem,you are not failing in pursuit of ME,
Just the walls of opposition have raised & have stood in full array against you,does not negate your progress.IT ACTUALLY REVEALS IT!
For NOTHING COMES BY CHANCE OR BY ACCIDENT,but I do all things on purpose.
these TRIALS have served to settle you & firmly root in ME,your JESUS,

You need the opposition to bring you further into ME,& show ME through the issues,so that others can see ME in them,
I teach you through the things you suffer & the things you learn,
It is also the way other's follow;FOR ALL MY PEOPLE LEARN THROUGH EACH OTHER.This is why you cannot stand alone,nor live apart from one another;

Each step build upon the next,which is the foundation for the next & the platform which you will climb upwards;
Without each step,you would not arise unto ME & expand into your understanding.Every situation has it's trial,i'ts good & it's grace;
LOOK AT IT THROUGH MY EYES(perception)& see MY WILL for you!
Embrace it & bring it into your heart,for within it..is MY TREASURE TO YOU!

Many want MY TREASURES,but don't want the opposition that it takes to make the treasure,They are formed through much fire,pressure & yielding to MY Hands.
Not many stay upon my wheel of the potter & allow ME to turn to turn it till I AM finished,but, it is always MY purpose to create a perfect work.
You are MY Perfect work MY BELOVED.

Take everyday as a gift from ME,& see it as a journey of transformation & perfection.I do nothing halfway or with faultiness,
It is those who look at themselves through their own eyes(flesh,carnal perceptioin) that see their faultiness and their humanity;
But when you look through MY EYES..you will see MY HANDIWORK and will REJOICE!My standards are much different than yours,& I have a higher purpose than you can fathom,and a greater purpose for your lives than you can yet embrace;
But trust ME to bring you to completion,& yield only to MY Hands,

Everything has it's season and I AM moving exactly where I want to in your lives,I AM moving through MY BODY showing MY handiwaork,as it comes forth out of you;
EACH OF YOU WILL DISPLAY OF ME,AS I WORK THROUGH EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU;
You are MY great strange work on earth and many will marvel at what I will do through each one of you in the days to come;

Think it not strange that I AM working behind the scenes.It is the greater works that are now being established within you,and when I AM finished,they will come forth in each one of you,
For I AM working a great,& very deep work,that I ALONE CAN BE GLORIFIED IN AND SEEN THROUGH!
So rest in ME YOUR JESUS..for I AM moving!

Keep DRAWING NEAR TO ME MY BELOVEDS,STAY YOUR HEART UPON ME,
Quiet yourselves before ME and allow ME to finalize MY ministrations to you and in you,
For surely,what I have been forming within your life,will come forth in due season!

Is that awesome or not?WOW! i tell you OUR GOD IS AN AWESOME GOD!
I have another poem that HE wrote last week shorter than this one.I tell you HE is just a romantic poet.
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I felt like Paul being put to jail for stating the ultimate TRUTH of GOD.Being labeled as confused by people blinded by their CARNAL PERSPECTIVE OR IS IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND?


"THE TRUTH HURTS BUT THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE!"

I DIDN'T LIKE IT EITHER THAT MY SINS ARE EXPOSED..GOD KNOWS THE ANGUISH AND THE ANGER I FELT FOR MY ALL SINS.DON'T PLAY GAMES THAT YOU ARE NOT AWARE OF YOUR SINS.

DO NOT TAKE IT OUT ON ME
bECAUSE GOD WILL EXPOSE ALL..ALL THAT IS NOT OF HIM WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT!!HE IS GOD AND STILL ON HIS THRONE.

NO ONE CAN HIDE FROM HIM,HE KNOWS the intent of the heart and it's motivations..better be you HUMBLE YOURSELVES AND REPENT OF YOUR WAYS.IF YOU HARDENED YOUR HEARTS..THEN THE LORD is JUST TO HANDLE YOU OVER TO YOUR ENEMY...satan...Figure out what will happen to you in his hands!
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You know exactly WHO YOU ARE that I am referring to.IAm here to FREE YOU FROM THE BONDAGE OF SINS.Don't you think people here do not know the difference between PLAYING CHRISTIAN & the REAL CHRISTIAN?Have you look at your INNER HEART & MOTIVATION?All the GAMES THAT YOU PLAYED I PLAYED so I can zero in the COUNTERFEIT for I have been in your shoes myself!

I want you to be HONEST BEFORE GOD & REPENT!


BE ANGRY AT YOUR SINS NOT THE ONE WHO WILL DELIVERER YOU ALL OF THE SPITUAL BLINDNESS THAT SATAN PUT INTO YOUR EYES!

This is what THE LORD JESUS revealed to me last night as I present this problem:

"EVERYTHING WHERE I SEND MY HOLY APOSTLES & PROPHETS THERE SHALL BE DIVIDING THAT TAKES PLACE"

..."I came not to bring "peace",but a sword!Ans so everywhere I send MY Holy Apostles & Prophets there will be a DIVIDING that takes place,FOR NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL TO CHOOSE THEIR ALLEGIANCE.They will either CHOOSE LIFE OR DEATH,LIGHT OR DARKNESS,HEALING OR SICKNESS & DISEASE,REST & PEACE,UNREST OR ANXIETY,FAITH OR FEAR,LOVE OR HATRED,HUMILITY OR PROUD & ARROGANCE SPIRIT..submission to MY POWERFUL ,LIVING WORD OR PRIDE OR REBELLION that manifest itself when one REJECTS MY WORD which has been delivered by MY HOLY APOSTLES & PROPHETS."

..."Truly,I say unto you all,IN THIS LAST HOUR I shall send forth MY HOLY APOSTLES & PROPHETS & the anointing abiding within them shall cause all of these things that I have just spoken to become abundantly clear in the midst of ALL MY PEOPLE & they shall have a very small window of apportunity to SEEK A THROROUGH REPENTANCE!But truly I say unto you,the time is coming & now is wherein each man's work shall become evident & whatever position they have chosen shall literally be,for the moment frozen in time....EXPOSED....EXPOSED FOR ALL TO SEE!

"THERE SHALL ONLY BE THREE REACTIONS"
Warn My Children that NOW IS THE TIME TO REPENT of ALL FELLOWSHIP WITH THE WORLD & IT'S WAYS!Anyone fellowshipping with,& conformity to...the WAYS OF THE WORLD IN ACTIONS,THOUGHTS & DESIRE.For I AM sending forth the FIRST of MANY WAVES OF SPECIFIC GROUP OF MY HOLY APOSTLES & PROPHETS that I have RAISED UP IN THIS LAST HOUR whose SOLE MOTIVATION:Is a deep & yearning compassion for everyone of My Children to rECEIVE & thus be entirely aware of...the fullness of their INHERITANNCE IN CHRIST.

As this first line of My Holy Apostles & Prophets to go forth into the midst of the congregations of MY people a great light shall surely shine forth immediately EXPOSING...EXPOSING..EXPOSING THE DEEPEST THOUGHTS & INTENTIONS WHETHER IT GOOD OR EVIL of all those who come into their presence.And thus,each & every individual SHALL INSTANTLY KNOW exactly WHAT IT IS I REQUIRE of them individually & truly I SAY to you there shall only be 3 reactions."

"Those of My Children who truly LOVE ME THEIR LORD & SAVIOUR shall move quickly to RECTIFY THEIR POSITION by moving swifly to the words spoken through MY HOLY APOSTLES & PROPHETS"

"ALL THE FORCES OF DARKNESS SHALL RECOIL AT THE POWER OF THE ANOINTING"

...I have indeed spoken through My servants My Prophets,migthily in this hour & truly I say to you once again My Children shall cry out,"Where is the Prophet of GOD? I must see a prophet of GOD! And My servants,the prophets shall be esteemed greatly in the land.For this last hour,My beloved servants..the prophets,shall see their vindication at MY Hand;for vengeance indeed is MINE SAYETH THE LORD & all the forces of the evil one shall RECOIL at the POWER OF THE ANOINTING my prophets shall walk in,in this last hour,this last generation!It is a sight which never before has been seen by the eyes of men;for I HAVE APPOINTED MY SERVANTS..the Prophets over the nations & over the kingdoms to pluck up and break down,to destroy & to overthrow,to build & to plant.
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The website that the LORD JESUS assigned for me is mostly for OUT OF CONTROL TEENS who does not know GOD, whose only sole purpose is to hang around other teens who have nothing to do ,there are atheist&evil spirits in disguise as a Christian.For a long time i wrestled with GOD in ever going back there because I likened it to "FALLUJAH WAR ZONE".IT WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL & OUTWARD EVIL.The Religion section is full of RELIGIOUS INTELLECTUALS whose only aim is to SELF-EXALT themselves but sadly does not know GOD INTIMATELY & PERSONALLY.They do not know HIM at all FOR THEY DO NOT EXPERIENCE HIS GREAT LOVE...that if ANYONE WHO COMES IN WITH REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES..THEY CANNOT ACCEPT IT AS REAL FOR THEY HAVE NOT EXPERIENCE GOD ON A PERSONAL,INTIMATE level.

I have seen it all,experience ALL that it is to experience in that messageboard.I KNOW THE GAMES PEOPLE PLAY.I have worked for years in a Prison Health system here in Northern CA & have several experience with evil people & the games they play I am like a sleuth that can detect right away what GAMES THEY ARE PLAYING WITH.That RICH EXPERIENCE taught me a lot about people.People are people no matter where they came from.We came from THE SAME ORIGIN..OUR CREATOR so our needs & constitution are the same ALL OVER THE WORLD.

DENIAL THAT SPRANG OUT OF SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS..that VEIL satan put in their eyes for they have attitudes,beleifs that IS NOT..NOT FROM GOD at all!

As people realize that SIN..I SAID SIN...SIN...SIN & ASKED FORGIVENESS & CLEANSING THE LORD IS FAITHFUL TO TAKE IT ALL AWAY IF YOU ARE TRULY SINCERE.HUMBLE YOURSELVES BEFORE THE LORD..ADMIT YOUR SINS ..DO NOT HARDENED YOUR HEART..YOU SAY YOU ARE BELIVERS! The people i dealt with are NOT BELEIVERS BUT OUTWARD ATHEIST!!SHOW FORTH TO ME THAT YOU REALLY ARE BELEIVERS HERE ,NOT A PRETENSE ONE..A MAKE BELEIVE BECAUSE YOU CANNOT FOOL THE GOD OF CREATION!

HE knows who is FOR REAL,PRETEND ONE..WE FOOL OURSELVES THAN GOD.BE REAL!!!BE TRANSPARENT BEFORE THE LORD!!
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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2005 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

THIS IS A POEM THE BRIDEGROOM( OUR LORD )
WROTE FOR HIS BRIDE(CHURCH)
You are Depleted..but not Defeated,
You are Deligthful & not Denied;
I AM your Jesus with you even in sorrow,
I AM with you even in lack;
I WILL RESTORE & I WILL ROAR!
I will survey & Supply ALL YOUR NEEDS,
I will not Abandon nor will I Forsake,
I WILL CONTRIBUTE & I WILL SHAKE!
YOU WILL RELY ONLY ON ME & NOT BE DENIED;
YOU WILL BE RESTORED & NOT BE IGNORED,I AM YOUR ONE TRUE LOVE
& you will soon Discover,
THAT ALL I PROMISED WILL BE UNCOVERED,
THE EXPLOSION OF MY GLORY DRAWS NEAR MY LOVE!
And Greatly Praise the ONE WHO IS ABOVE!,
Your Joy & Delight will increase so much,
That even the ungodly will be changed in a touch!!

I AM WITH YOU MY BRIDE & WILL NOT ALLOW THE ENEMY TO CONTINUE THIS MUCH LONGER,

I WILL RESTORE ALL I MEAN ALL THAT CONCERNS YOUR PRECIOUS HEART,
I WILL MAKE THE CROOKED PLACES STRAIGHT & LEVEL EVERY MOUNTAIN THAT ARRAY ITSELF AGAINST YOU MY BELOVED FOR MY NAME'S SAKE,

I AM ALL LIGHT,POWER & MAJESTY! I AM AN EXPERIENCE!
SOON THEY WILL EXPERIENCE ME IN POWERFUL WAYS THAT WILL
CATALPULT THEM INTO THE KINGDOM OF MY LOVE AND THEY WILL
GO FORTH AS MIGTHY MAN & WOMAN OF GOD!

"DO NOT THINK YOUR TEARS & SORROWS ARE OF NO EFFECT..I GATHER EVERY TEAR..I KNOW EVERY GROAN OF SUFFERINGS..EVERY LONGING TO SEE THEM WALK IN MY TRUTH & ONLY MY RIGHTEOUSNESS!

EVEN THE ONES THAT AREW SO DISTANT & REBELLIOUS WILL BE BROUGHT TO THEIR KNEES,
SO REST IF YOU PLEASE & FEEL THE BREEZE!
I AM THE DESIRE YOU WANT & WANTS TO COMMUNE WITH YOU PERSONALLY & INTIMATELY FOR I LOVE YOU SO!


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HOLY KAMOOLA! iSN'T HE SO ROMANTIC? I USED TO BE AN ICE QUEEN NOW THE LORD TURNED ME TO A LOVE MACHINE Cool

HE IS UP TO DATE NOT THE ANCIENT MAN YOU WILL REMEMBER.HE KNOWS EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING ON IN THIS PRESENT CENTURY.

HE IS TO ME(THis is the names I used to call Our Lord(our baby talk to each other)You can be that close to the LORD!

MY WIND BENEATH MY WINGS,
MY SWEET PEA,
MY SWEET POTATOE,
MY PUMPKIN,
MY HONEY BUN,
MY HOLY SIMCHA,
MY "AS THE UNIVERSE TURNED IN IT'S AXIS",
MY HOLY SMOKES,
MY "WHAT ON EARTH!"
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