Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:44 pm Post subject: seventh day adventists
Hi I am new to the forum, my name is Danica. I have a few questions that I would like to know about seventh day adventists. Thank you for taking the time to answer these questions.
The following questions are:
1. How long have you been a seventh day adventist?
2. Which of the adventists beliefs is most central to your life?
3. Which of the adventist beliefs is most problematic for you?
4. How is your lifestyle related to your beliefs as an adventist?
I see that no one else is rushing in to answer your questions so I guess that I should take a stab at it.
1. I've been a Seventh-day Adventist for 30 years.
2. There are 27 so-called "fundamental beliefs" but I don't believe that they capture the essence of Seventh-day Adventism. There's a great chasm between the Church's political consensus on official beliefs and very real, practical, SDA beliefs of eternal consequence. To me, believing in Jesus as the way, the truth and the life and as a Savior and the gospel is the most central and essential. If you look at the given link carefully, you're going to find that the gospel of Jesus or Paul is not listed as an authorized "fundamental belief."
3. The Seventh-day Adventist church is not a monolithic structure. There are seven faces to Seventh-day Adventism. The most problematic of Seventh-day Adventist beliefs for me is the required respect that needs to be shown for one of the seven faces. I am referring to a rather significant and influential faction in the Seventh-day Adventist church that denies Christ's vicarious, substitutionary atonement. Their gospel is a joyous excitement about the death process in a pantheistic view of the final judgment. If an SDA were to express the supposition that the above mentioned doctrines may be demonic, that the tolerance of demonic doctrines in the church is proof of apostasy, and a very likely fulfillment of prophecy, then that person will find himself booted out of the church. I view the Adventist Church's very apparent sanctioning of evil and discipline according to an unofficial list of beliefs as exceedingly unchristian and problematic.
4. My lifestyle, based on true Christianity and Adventism, seems to resemble that of the reformers. Not surprisingly, I'm very impressed with the following testimonies by Ellen G. White, who, in my opinion, has taught many neglected yet timeless and authentic Christian beliefs.
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Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2003 11:19 am Post subject: Re: seventh day adventist
danica wrote:
1. How long have you been a seventh day adventist?
I'm not quite sure. I've read the Great Controversy, and have been alighted to the truth of the Bible by it and been brought to much repentance. However, there is no SDA Church in my area, and I am yet to be baptised. So maybe I am not?
danica wrote:
2. Which of the adventists beliefs is most central to your life?
Jesus Christ - the Son of God, His atoning sacrifice and that through Him, and the gift of His Spirit, I can come to God - His imminent return and abiding in His love by keeping His commandments (emphasising the seventh-day as Sabbath).
danica wrote:
3. Which of the adventist beliefs is most problematic for you?
I have to had to make many sacrifices to observe the Sabbath as it is put forth in Isaiah 58:13,14, but of course feel it has been well worth it. Also, having no SDA fellowship in my area, I feel isolated somewhat and still struggle with what I am to do about this problem.
danica wrote:
4. How is your lifestyle related to your beliefs as an adventist?
I pray for the quickening of my soul in readying for the coming of the Lord, and take what has become the most commercial day of the week to be the holiest. To live in the word, I ask God for the Holy Spirit (daily if I can) to influence my heart and mind to be Christlike in nature: patient and kind, exercising perfect love. But I am human, I've got a lot of things to learn. _________________ And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. Rom 8:23.
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 8:12 pm Post subject: Reply to Danica
#1 How long have you been a Seventh-day Adventist-
I have been a Seventh-day Adventist for 17 years, (1987).
#2 Which of the adventists beliefs is most central to your life?
I too agree with wandering nomad...however I would like to add that I have found that obedience because of love for my savior comes in many forms and that is why I am a Seventh-day Adventist. It is a heart response to the agape (self-sacrificing love). A heart response to the King of the Universe who came down to a poor stable to be born in a manger, to grow up and live and be persecuted and die for me that I might live in eternity. He was made to be sin that I might be made the righteousness of God in him (2 Corinthians 5:21).
#3. Which of the adventist beliefs is most problematic for you?
I have the most problem with the lifestyle...not out of any disbelief, but of human weakness. I am a vegetarian, yet I am allergic to wheat...I have low blood sugar, and have a hard time attempting to live a vegetarian lifestyle and not eat what I am allergic to.
#4. How is your lifestyle related to your beliefs as an adventist?
I am a pastor's wife, so my whole life is related to sharing the gospel, ministering to others and assisting my husband in his ministry. It is very satisfying.
When you say the seventh day do you mean Saturday or from Friday's sunset to Saturday's sunset. Either way, what is your belief in this based on? _________________ Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2004 6:29 pm Post subject: In Jewish reckoning, a new day begins at sunset
"God called the light Day, and the darkness He called Night. So the evening and the morning were the first day" (Genesis 1:5).
"Evening and the morning were the second day" (Genesis 1:8).
"Evening and the morning were the third day" (Genesis 1:13).
"Evening and the morning were the fourth day" (Genesis 1:19).
"Evening and the morning were the fifth day" (Genesis 1:23).
"Evening and the morning were the sixth day" (Genesis 1:31).
"Thus the heavens and the earth, and all the host of them, were finished. And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done. Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made" (Genesis 2:1-3).
Not surprisingly, in Jewish reckoning, a new day begins at sunset.
Thanks for your reply. _________________ Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
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