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Back to top   '); //--> Eugene Shubert the new William Miller Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 750 Location: Richardson Texas Posted: Mon May 20, 2002 8:19 am    Post subject: Will this earth be destroyed by fire???? Hi c.moore, Thanks for posting your question here. It seems to me that the Scriptures teach explicitly that this world will be destroyed by fire. Quote: But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. Since everything will be destroyed in this way, what kind of people ought you to be? You ought to live holy and godly lives as you look forward to the day of God and speed its coming. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat. But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness. 2 Peter 3:10-13. This verse says, “the elements will be destroyed by fire,” “the elements will melt in the heat” and “the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.” Those words must mean something. If the JWs say that these words are just symbols, try asking them what they are symbols of. From reading the Bible I can’t imagine that God would set up His kingdom here without first purifying the earth by fire. Consider all the pollution and garbage dumps everywhere now. What about when the seven last judgments fall and all the oceans are turned to blood and all the cities are turned into heaps of rubble? Consider also all the dead bodies that will litter the surface of the earth in the great day of God. Who is going to clean up that mess? We better hope that the earth will be purified by fire! The book of Revelation paints a picture of everlasting smoke and a lake of fire so great that it will put an end to all the wicked who have ever lived, including Satan and his angels. Malachi says that the righteous will be walking on the ashes of the wicked (Mal 4:1,3). In conclusion, it is true that the meek shall inherit the earth. This planet to its very core “will be laid bare,” the surface and the atmosphere will be destroyed by fire and then this whole world will be remade into a paradise (cf. Rev 21). As Peter said, “But in keeping with his promise we are looking forward to a new heaven and a new earth, the home of righteousness” (2 Peter 3:13). You can’t have something new unless the old passes away. Back to top   '); //--> c.moore is under review Joined: 20 May 2002 Posts: 6 Location: kassel germany Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 6:19 am    Post subject: Two of the scripture verses that the Jehovah witness uses to defend their belief that this world will not be destroy is : Ec:1:4: One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever. And Psalms:104:5: Who laid the foundations of the earth, that it should not be removed for ever. maybe somebody can help me to understand what these scripture is saying, and maybe I need some Hebrew interpretation about these verses. God Bless you _________________ Evangelist c.moore Proverb:4:7: Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding. Back to top   '); //--> Eugene Shubert the new William Miller Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 750 Location: Richardson Texas Posted: Tue May 21, 2002 11:50 am    Post subject: c.moore, This is easy. We only need to go to http://bible.gospelcom.net/cgi-bin/bible and examine how the Bible uses the word destroy and note the various shades of meaning. Quote: So God said to Noah, “I am going to put an end to all people, for the earth is filled with violence because of them. I am surely going to destroy both them and the earth.” Genesis 6:13. “I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.” Genesis 9:11. Here, the word destroy applies to what God did to the earth at the time of Noah’s flood. This is a perfect illustration. Noah’s flood destroyed the whole world to a depth of no more than 7 miles down. (I recall reading that sedimentary rock produced by Noah’s flood exists worldwide and is known to have a depth of up to 7 miles in some places). Compare that destruction with my interpretation of 2 Peter 3:10-13. I said “the surface [of the earth] and the atmosphere will be destroyed by fire.” I believe that means that the atmosphere will burn and the surface of the earth will melt. The surface of the earth melting wouldn’t affect the foundation of the earth, which I interpret as the core. God created the earth to abide forever but that doesn’t contradict Bible history when the surface of the earth turned to mud. Similarly, it doesn’t contradict Bible prophecy proclaiming that the surface of the earth will melt. Peter said that “the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.” “The elements will melt in the heat.” There’s nothing unusual about the Bible using the word destroy to describe this upcoming change to the earth. Back to top   '); //--> RonA Seventh-day Adventist Joined: 19 Jan 2003 Posts: 17 Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2003 11:00 pm    Post subject: Yep, I agree with Bro Eugene's post Yep, I agree with Bro Eugene's post. Reads right to me. 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