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Eugene Shubert
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2002 9:26 am    Post subject: Catholic and Nazi Seventh-day Adventists Reply with quote

I ran across an interesting article on the Internet this morning about Catholic Seventh-day Adventists (http://www.lightministries.com/id273.htm). I believe that the theme of the article is true.

God calls us to be loyal to the truth but the Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy has placed itself in God’s stead and all church members, like most of the world, are being directed to submit unquestioning allegiance to a mere human authority that pretends to be religious. The sheeple are happy to comply.

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A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. Jeremiah 5:30-31.

Frankly, I don’t see much difference between the leadership principles of the Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy and The Fuehrerprinzip of the National Socialist German Workers’ Party.
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nicsamojluk
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:44 am    Post subject: Catholic Adventists Reply with quote

After reading your comments about the hierarchical system of the Adventist organization, I must confess that I am a little bit confused. Elsewhere, you describe your belief that God is above all, and that even Jesus is subject to him. If God's government in heaven is based on a hierirchical system, why is it wrong for God's church to model what God has in heaven?
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Eugene Shubert
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nicsamojluk,

You’ve asked a terrific question! However great your question is, I suspect that you misunderstood my point. Don’t you see any difference between the leadership principles of Nazi Germany and the leadership principles of the Kingdom of God?
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nicsamojluk
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:42 am    Post subject: Catholic Adventism Reply with quote

Yes, I do. There is a difference as you state. This does not negate the fact that a hierarchical system is not evil in itself, since heaven is based on it, but it becomes evil if misused. I wish, though, that those Adventists who claim to be members of the
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true catholic church
would imitate the good features of Catholicism instead of the bad ones.

The Pope, for example, respects the sanctity of human life in spite of the almost universal defense of the poisoning and dismemberment of the unborn; while Adventists, who claim to be God's Remnant church, pretend to do the same by stating that
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prenatal life is a magnificent gift of God
, but then add that
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the church has chosen not to define the precise moment human life begins

How can we protect prenatal human life if we claim to ignore its limits? Would it make sense for George Bush to require the border patrol to protect our national borders, and then declare that we do not know where those borders are? The Pope knows when human life begins, but we, who have
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the last message for a perishing world
don't! Does this makes sense to you? We loudly proclaim the need to worship God on the correct day of the week, and keep silent while the genocide of the unborn is taking place.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know that the Nazis were really big on eugenics. We are told that many Catholics express a reverential awe for the pope akin to worship. I understand Bob Pickle as saying that there are Seventh-day Adventist abortionists who practice in our hospitals and that mainline Adventists approve. It all boils down to who we worship. All evil hierarchies are essentially the same. Satan is really the one on top.

“They worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, ‘Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?’ …All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain.” (Revelation 13:4-8).
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