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Eugene Shubert teacher, evangelist

Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 582 Location: Richardson Texas
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Posted: Sun May 19, 2002 9:26 am Post subject: Catholic and Nazi Seventh-day Adventists |
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I ran across an interesting article on the Internet this morning about Catholic Seventh-day Adventists (http://www.lightministries.com/id273.htm). I believe that the theme of the article is true.
God calls us to be loyal to the truth but the Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy has placed itself in Gods stead and all church members, like most of the world, are being directed to submit unquestioning allegiance to a mere human authority that pretends to be religious. The sheeple are happy to comply.
| Quote: | | A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land: The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority, and my people love it this way. Jeremiah 5:30-31. |
Frankly, I dont see much difference between the leadership principles of the Seventh-day Adventist hierarchy and The Fuehrerprinzip of the National Socialist German Workers Party. |
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nicsamojluk follows A. G. Maxwell

Joined: 15 Oct 2002 Posts: 19
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Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2002 7:44 am Post subject: Catholic Adventists |
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| After reading your comments about the hierarchical system of the Adventist organization, I must confess that I am a little bit confused. Elsewhere, you describe your belief that God is above all, and that even Jesus is subject to him. If God's government in heaven is based on a hierirchical system, why is it wrong for God's church to model what God has in heaven? |
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Eugene Shubert teacher, evangelist

Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 582 Location: Richardson Texas
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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2002 3:01 am Post subject: |
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nicsamojluk,
Youve asked a terrific question! However great your question is, I suspect that you misunderstood my point. Dont you see any difference between the leadership principles of Nazi Germany and the leadership principles of the Kingdom of God? |
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nicsamojluk follows A. G. Maxwell

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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2002 9:42 am Post subject: Catholic Adventism |
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Yes, I do. There is a difference as you state. This does not negate the fact that a hierarchical system is not evil in itself, since heaven is based on it, but it becomes evil if misused. I wish, though, that those Adventists who claim to be members of the | Quote: | | true catholic church | would imitate the good features of Catholicism instead of the bad ones.
The Pope, for example, respects the sanctity of human life in spite of the almost universal defense of the poisoning and dismemberment of the unborn; while Adventists, who claim to be God's Remnant church, pretend to do the same by stating that | Quote: | | prenatal life is a magnificent gift of God | , but then add that
How can we protect prenatal human life if we claim to ignore its limits? Would it make sense for George Bush to require the border patrol to protect our national borders, and then declare that we do not know where those borders are? The Pope knows when human life begins, but we, who have | Quote: | | the last message for a perishing world | don't! Does this makes sense to you? We loudly proclaim the need to worship God on the correct day of the week, and keep silent while the genocide of the unborn is taking place. |
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Eugene Shubert teacher, evangelist

Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 582 Location: Richardson Texas
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:09 pm Post subject: |
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I know that the Nazis were really big on eugenics. We are told that many Catholics express a reverential awe for the pope akin to worship. I understand Bob Pickle as saying that there are Seventh-day Adventist abortionists who practice in our hospitals and that mainline Adventists approve. It all boils down to who we worship. All evil hierarchies are essentially the same. Satan is really the one on top.
They worshiped the dragon because he gave his authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, Who is like the beast, and who is able to wage war with him?
All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb who has been slain. (Revelation 13:4-8). |
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