Similarities Between Kellogg’s Pantheism/ SDA Trinitarianism

adventbeliever · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:19 pm Post subject:

These passages of Scriptures prove nothing as far as proving anything for or against the trinity!
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Mickey · Posted: Sat Oct 26, 2002 9:28 pm Post subject:

adventbeliever · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 12:59 pm Post subject:

That is what you are having problems with. You refuse to acknowledge "God the Son," or "God the Spirit." Then you will die in your sins! Unless Christ is "God the Son" He cannot be a Savior! Compare again Isaiah 43:10-15 and John 8:24,28.

It is hard to imagine that somoene who calls himself a Christian could read Isaiah 43:10 with John 8:24,28 and not see that Christ is "God the Son!"

And if the Holy Spirit is not "God the Spirit," then the Spirit is only "of God" but not the third Person of the Godhead!

May the Lord forgive our dullness and unbelief!
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Believing unto righteousness Rom.10:10.

Mickey · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 1:12 pm Post subject:

I refuse to acknowledge "God the Son" and "God the Spirit" simply because the bible and the SOP doesn't acknowledge those two gods. The bible and the SOP acknowledges the Son OF God and the Spirit OF God. Now, I'm asking you to please show me the acknowledgement from the bible and the SOP referring to "God the Son" and "God the Spirit".

I will not die in my sins for acknowledging God's word over the tradition that you are espousing. I'm proving my position from the scriptures while you are attempting to prove it by human reasoning. Show me where Isaiah and John say that "Ulness Christ is 'God the Son', He cannot be our Savior'. Where does it say that? The DIVINITY of Christ is established. Him being "God the Son" is NOT! According to you and the trinitarian viewpoint, because Christ is divine, He must be "God the Son". Really? By what and whose authority do you make such a pronouncement? You should be able to back this all up from the inspired word of God. But you're not! You're just telling us that we must accept it! It doesn't work that way, brother. I don't have to accept any teaching that's not in harmony with the plain utterances of God's word. And this is where I stand and may God help me!

adventbeliever · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 1:32 pm Post subject:

I keep telling you that my authority for what I believe, as far as Jesus being "God the Son," are the words found in Isaiah 43:10 and John 8:24,28.

Jesus applied the words found in Isaiah 43:10 to Himself! "I am He." John 8:24. We need say no more except to believe these words implicitly!

"Implicit belief in Christ's word is true humility, true self-surrender." D.A.535.
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Mickey · Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2002 3:31 pm Post subject:

AB, Isaiah 43:10 is referring to the Father. The name LORD is Jehovah, the name of the Eternal God - the Father. Christ, His son has inherited God's name, the one and only true God. God the Father gave Christ His Son the authority to use and speak in His, the Father's name. This verse doesn't teach that there's a "God the Son". This is being read into the text by proponents of the trinity.

You may be citing this scripture as your authority for belief in the trinity, but this is a scripture misapplied, for the passage doesn't teach a trinity but rather shows that Jehovah is the only God and there is none else.