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The Seventh-day Adventist Church and the Three Demons' Messages
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01-12-2009, 02:19 AM
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I believe that Seventh-day Adventists need to hear the true gospel. The true gospel in the appropriate endtime context is the three angels' messages (Revelation 14:6-12). Seventh-day Adventists teach the three demons' messages (Revelation 16:13-14).

For example: The first angel's message repudiates spiritualism. Yet Seventh-day Adventists teach spiritualism. See The Spiritualism of Adventism.

The second angel's message exposes the presumptuousness of Babylon. However, like those in Babylon, Seventh-day Adventists are not humbled by indisputable evidence of their Laodicean standing before God. They are angered by it. They wish to deny their arrogance and try to hide their own presumptuousness. See Threats, Intimidation and the Kingdom of God.

The third angel's messages announces the judgment that will fall on those that worship the antichrist power. How do Seventh-day Adventists respond? They retaliate by appealing to the State against those who proclaim the three angels' messages. "This house is proscribed. The goods must be confiscated. They have spoken against our holy order." See Adventist Arrested and Sued for not submitting to Church-taught Spiritualism.
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Originally Posted by Shubee
I believe that Seventh-day Adventists need to hear the true gospel. The true gospel in the appropriate endtime context is the three angels' messages (Revelation 14:6-12). Seventh-day Adventists teach the three demons' messages (Revelation 16:13-14).

For example: The first angel's message repudiates spiritualism. Yet Seventh-day Adventists teach spiritualism. See The Spiritualism of Adventism.

The second angel's message exposes the presumptuousness of Babylon. However, like those in Babylon, Seventh-day Adventists are not humbled by indisputable evidence of their Laodicean standing before God. They are angered by it. They wish to deny their arrogance and try to hide their own presumptuousness. See Threats, Intimidation and the Kingdom of God.

The third angel's messages announces the judgment that will fall on those that worship the antichrist power. How do Seventh-day Adventists respond? They retaliate by appealing to the State against those who proclaim the three angels' messages. "This house is proscribed. The goods must be confiscated. They have spoken against our holy order." See Adventist Arrested and Sued for not submitting to Church-taught Spiritualism.
Shubee,

Your claims may or may not be true (and since there is no way to prove the validity of those sites you posted, let's assume they're not valid), however, if this is true, you cannot lump all of us in with this group. Or maybe you're just another disgruntled ex-SDA who needs to let off some steam? Don't lose heart, my brother, keep your eyes, ears, and faith centered on Jesus and His Word, and you can't go wrong.

God bless,
SDG
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Today, 12:07 AM
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Shubee,

Okay so I looked into your world of "labeling"- pre-judging of the seventh day adventist church..
And from what I can tell, is that there are two sides to every story of which the offenses of Shubert the arrested individual are missing.
Needless to say he was arrested for something other than rebutting Maxwells philosophies or Pantheistic - Gnosticism..
Which labels you seem to place on people with ease.


Jesus is the judge of this era. Does that help?


The time for investigative judgment by the saints has not yet arrived. We are to warn others of God's judgment, but the crusade of divisive labeling of the SDA church in your "Seven Spirits" is making yourself Jesus. And Shubee you are not Jesus. There are all walks and degrees of faith in the SDA church. Jesus said let the tares grow up with the wheat.

Mat 7:1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
Luk 6:37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:
Jhn 12:48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


SDA's aren't disciples of MAxwell, Pantheist, Gnostics, etc.

They are disciples of Christ and abide in his truth. However you like to stretch the label to condemn the SDA'a in your "messages of the three devils" .The point of your own bitterness is made in your presentation.
SDA's are HOLY SPIRIT filled.
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Today, 12:12 AM
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Trying to fit that square peg in the round whole.


Shubee states the following regarding SDA's
"In effect, spiritualists have so little awareness of moral accountability or a belief in the true God that, virtually, the spiritualists’ belief is that you may “Live as you please for heaven is your home.” “You set the standard.” “Reality is only what you perceive it to be,” which they often express as, “Do your own thing,” “there is no right or wrong except for what you think is right or wrong.”

SDA'a believe
11. Growing in Christ:
By His death on the cross Jesus triumphed over the forces of evil. He who subjugated the demonic spirits during His earthly ministry has broken their power and made certain their ultimate doom. Jesus' victory gives us victory over the evil forces that still seek to control us, as we walk with Him in peace, joy, and assurance of His love. Now the Holy Spirit dwells within us and empowers us. Continually committed to Jesus as our Saviour and Lord, we are set free from the burden of our past deeds. No longer do we live in the darkness, fear of evil powers, ignorance, and meaninglessness of our former way of life. In this new freedom in Jesus, we are called to grow into the likeness of His character, communing with Him daily in prayer, feeding on His Word, meditating on it and on His providence, singing His praises, gathering together for worship, and participating in the mission of the Church. As we give ourselves in loving service to those around us and in witnessing to His salvation, His constant presence with us through the Spirit transforms every moment and every task into a spiritual experience. (Ps 1:1, 2; 23:4; 77:11, 12; Col 1:13, 14; 2:6, 14, 15; Luke 10:17-20; Eph 5:19, 20; 6:12-18; 1 Thess 5:23; 2 Peter 2:9; 3:18; 2 Cor. 3:17, 18; Phil 3:7-14; 1 Thess 5:16-18; Matt 20:25-28; John 20:21; Gal 5:22-25; Rom 8:38, 39; 1 John 4:4; Heb 10:25.)
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Today, 12:58 AM
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Shubee,

Your claims may or may not be true (and since there is no way to prove the validity of those sites you posted, let's assume they're not valid), however, if this is true, you cannot lump all of us in with this group. Or maybe you're just another disgruntled ex-SDA who needs to let off some steam? Don't lose heart, my brother, keep your eyes, ears, and faith centered on Jesus and His Word, and you can't go wrong.

God bless,
SDG
SDG, I thought I posted a reply previously, but I must have moved away from the post prior to "send reply". My computer has been acting up for several weeks.

Shubee posted these same false claims several months ago.
He Is from a "splinter group". However, that site he referenced is his own. It took a page from the other "EX-SDA's" methods of distortion of the truth.
He is big on trying to distort EGW's writing to condemn the SDA Church. A reversal of the other "Ex's".

But the "arrests", "threats", etc. is in the using of the Seventh Day Adventist Name to smear the SDA Church.
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Today, 02:49 AM
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Shubee,

Okay so I looked into your world of "labeling"- pre-judging of the seventh day adventist church..
And from what I can tell, is that there are two sides to every story of which the offenses of Shubert the arrested individual are missing.
I believe that the comprehensive reference Adventist Arrested and Sued for not submitting to Church-taught Spiritualism is sufficiently well-detailed.

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Needless to say he was arrested for something other than rebutting Maxwells philosophies or Pantheistic - Gnosticism.
Where is your evidence that Threats, Intimidation and the Kingdom of God is false?

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The crusade of divisive labeling of the SDA church in your "Seven Spirits" is making yourself Jesus.
Nope. Merely creating an Ellen G. White compilation with the title, The Seven Faces of Seventh-day Adventism doesn't turn anyone into Jesus.

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There are all walks and degrees of faith in the SDA church.
Correct. And there are seven prominent spirits.

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Jesus said let the tares grow up with the wheat.
Let Both Grow Together is an excellent testimony to give to those Adventists who believe it's their right to uproot anyone who expresses the slightest dissent.

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SDA's aren't disciples of MAxwell
I didn't say that all Adventists are disciples of Maxwell. I've only said that the entire Church is culpable for the sins of their leaders that obey a policy of crushing sincere dissent against Maxwell's pan-Gnostic Adventist spiritualism and that this persecution is the fulfillment of prophecy.

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Shubee states the following regarding SDA's
"In effect, spiritualists have so little awareness of moral accountability or a belief in the true God that, virtually, the spiritualists’ belief is that you may “Live as you please for heaven is your home.” “You set the standard.” “Reality is only what you perceive it to be,” which they often express as, “Do your own thing,” “there is no right or wrong except for what you think is right or wrong.”
You have clearly taken The Spiritualism of Adventism out of context.