The Truth About Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
The church of Walter McGill a.k.a. Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church is a church of mirrors that fraudulently masquerades as an association of multiple churches. See http://www.everythingimportant.org/Walter_McGill
Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
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Eugene Shubert
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The Creation Seventh Day Adventists are an interesting group. I agree with their view of the Victorious Life, that through Christ's power we can be ultimately freed from the hold of sin. However, I get a negative feeling from them. They do much denouncing, which I don't disagree with, but I don't feel it should be your central message.
I will pray for the CSDAs.
I will pray for the CSDAs.
Sunrunner wrote:The Creation Seventh Day Adventists are an interesting group. I agree with their view of the Victorious Life, that through Christ's power we can be ultimately freed from the hold of sin. However, I get a negative feeling from them. They do much denouncing, which I don't disagree with, but I don't feel it should be your central message.
I will pray for the CSDAs.
Sunrunner,
Yes this group does teach some truth about the victorious life that all last day people should be seeking, but their published material contains gross error. I made a CD about a year ago against their published teaching on the 7 Thunders.
I have to say, Eugene, I looked over that web page you made and to be honest it's not very impressive. Can't you address the theological position of the CSDAs?
It looks more like a vicious attack than a scholarly review.
"Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." Ephesians 4:29
It looks more like a vicious attack than a scholarly review.
"Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers." Ephesians 4:29
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Eugene Shubert
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I prefer to not honor deceit so I presented a Biblical review. Don't blame me if you fail to recognize the integrity of the theme.
2 Corinthians 11:13
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ."
Ephesians 5:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."
2 Corinthians 11:13
"For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ."
Ephesians 5:11
"And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them."
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Eugene Shubert
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Re: Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
I remember many editors at Wikipedia not believing Shubee's testimony that the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church is a hoax. They should then find this interesting: It appears that the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church has admitted in court to only having three members. See Case 1:06-cv-01207-JDB Document 70 Filed 06/11/2008, page 3. This court document clearly validates the central thesis in Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church Hoax and also proves that the editors that squat over all the Adventist articles at Wikipedia, blindly insisting on their collectively agreed upon irrational fantasies, are all small-minded, unthinking knuckleheads.
Re: Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
When I was in Tennessee I went to the CSDA church to see what it was like and I was very blessed. The people there were some of the most loving, generous people I have ever met. I met a mother who had two kids enrolled as homeschoolers. They used the curriculum provided by the academy. There is also another young man (who is often online) who has been in constant training at the academy up until recently. I was there during a camp-meeting, during which, I met several people from Canada and elsewhere. I think they are a legitimate church.
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Dzien Dobry
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A Work of Deception
It will be found that those who bear false messages will not have a high sense of honor and integrity. They will deceive the people, and mix up with their error the Testimonies of Sister White, and use her name to give influence to their work. They make such selections from the Testimonies as they think they can twist to support their positions, and place them in a setting of falsehood, so that their error may have weight and be accepted by the people. They misinterpret and misapply that which God has given to the church to warn, counsel, reprove, comfort, and encourage those who shall make up the remnant people of God. Those who receive the Testimonies as the message of God will be helped and blessed thereby; but those who take them in parts, simply to support some theory or idea of their own, to vindicate themselves in a course of error, will not be blessed and benefited by what they teach. To claim that the Seventh-day Adventist Church is Babylon, is to make the same claim as does Satan, who is an accuser of the brethren, who accuses them before God night and day. By this misusing of the Testimonies, souls are placed in perplexity, because they cannot understand the relation of the Testimonies to such a position as is taken by those in error; for God intended that the Testimonies should always have a setting in the framework of truth. {TM 42.1}
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TruthHunter
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Re: Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
I was sent the following:
On ABC news:
http://www.wbbjtv.com/Church%20Name%20Controversy.html
Here's a follow-up report
http://www.wbbjtv.com/Church%20Signs%20Come%20Down.html
and in the local paper
http://dailycorinthian.com/view/full_st ... story_left
I was looking around for more information on CSDA church and found Eugene's post.
How is using the courts and Federal marshal's defending "the reputation and good name" of the SDA church? Ever since the Marik debacle, I walk out when Liberty Magazine gets promoted.
By suing him, we have only damaged it ourselves.
I wouldn't have noticed him if the church hadn't attacked him. Even if I had, I wouldn't have any trouble determining that he wasn't Corporate. He now has more publicity and sympathy than he ever would otherwise.
I see plenty of evidence that the trademark they are defending was obtained fraudulently. To represent a name used freely and openly by Seventh Day Adventist Reformed and other groups as sole property is to lie by omission.
If the church ever attempts Corporate repentance they could start with this.
On ABC news:
http://www.wbbjtv.com/Church%20Name%20Controversy.html
Here's a follow-up report
http://www.wbbjtv.com/Church%20Signs%20Come%20Down.html
and in the local paper
http://dailycorinthian.com/view/full_st ... story_left
I was looking around for more information on CSDA church and found Eugene's post.
How is using the courts and Federal marshal's defending "the reputation and good name" of the SDA church? Ever since the Marik debacle, I walk out when Liberty Magazine gets promoted.
By suing him, we have only damaged it ourselves.
I wouldn't have noticed him if the church hadn't attacked him. Even if I had, I wouldn't have any trouble determining that he wasn't Corporate. He now has more publicity and sympathy than he ever would otherwise.
I see plenty of evidence that the trademark they are defending was obtained fraudulently. To represent a name used freely and openly by Seventh Day Adventist Reformed and other groups as sole property is to lie by omission.
If the church ever attempts Corporate repentance they could start with this.
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Eugene Shubert
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Re: Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church
TruthHunter wrote:How is using the courts and Federal marshal's defending "the reputation and good name" of the SDA church?
By "the reputation and good name" of the SDA church, I simply mean what Christ meant in Luke 6:26: "Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for so did their fathers to the false prophets." The SDA church is taking care of it's own special interests in the exact same manner that worldly powers go about maintaining their own influence and control. This is what the world and the church expects.
TruthHunter wrote:He now has more publicity and sympathy than he ever would otherwise.
Ellen G. White wrote: "At this time God's chosen all saw clearly that we had the truth, and they came out and endured the persecution with us." EW 33.
I see no evidence that any of God's chosen people even suspect that Walter McGill stands for truth. I believe that McGill represents fraud, deceit and the most fanatical faction of the Seventh-day Adventist church.
"Some have fanciful views which blind their eyes to important, vital points of truth, leading them to place their own fanciful inferences upon a level with vital truth. The appearance of such, and the spirit which attends them, makes the Sabbath which they profess very objectionable to the sensible unbeliever. It would be far better for the progress and success of the third angel's message if such persons would leave the truth." —Testimonies For the Church, Vol. 1. p. 413.
"There are little companies continually rising who believe that God is only with the very few, the very scattered, and their influence is to tear down and scatter that which God's servants build up. Restless minds who want to be seeing and believing something new continually are constantly rising, some in one place and some in another, all doing a special work for the enemy, yet claiming to have the truth. They stand separate from the people whom God is leading out and prospering, and through whom He is to do His great work. They are continually expressing their fears that the body of Sabbathkeepers are becoming like the world, but there are scarcely two of these whose views are in harmony. They are scattered and confused, and yet deceive themselves so much as to think that God is especially with them. …
"This class do not know what they really believe, or the reasons for their belief. They are ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth." —Testimonies For the Church, Vol. 1. pp. 417- 418.
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