The Confessing Seventh-day Adventist

Eugene Shubert quotations.
"It's a tragedy in my view how someone could listen to a "Bible teacher" for over a decade and so clearly demonstrate, as you do, the inability to respond logically to a clear theological proposition. Thanks for showing yourself as such a tragic example of the power of Maxwell's mesmerizing nonsense. All you do is ooze and drip emotionalism and irrationality.

I have a very good reason to put all the enthusiastic supporters of Michael Travesser in the jail forum.

Why are you descending so deeply into the pit and complaining about a virtual universe and my right to not exalt the darkest threads to the heavenly forums? I'll tell you why. I speak out against spiritualism exercising its unholy influence in the Seventh-day Adventist church and I've written out my experience concerning certain followers of Maxwell who have resorted to using Satan's methods, hateful lies and the civil power to destroy my influence, only because I believe in the Ellen White's omega prophecy and not in the holiness of Maxwell and his followers.

I believe that Graham Maxwell is inspired by demons. I also believe that Graham Maxwell is very unkind by introducing tidbits of his heresy randomly in thousands of tapes that he sends all over the world while refusing to condense his controversial ideas.

I've heard Maxwell say several times that he is always receiving requests from his supporters to write a definitive exposition of his unique message but that he is hesitant to present his view as a systematic theology.

If you were to read Ellen White, you would find that my statements about Maxwell and his doctrines are based on Ellen White's writings concerning John Harvey Kellogg and his theology. My opinion of Maxwell and his message is based on what Maxwell teaches and Ellen White's omega prophecy.


Please observe very carefully how Looking Upward has refuted your fallacy by the pertinent use of clear thinking and logic:

“To that great Spirit of prophecy statement I will cite a definition on the meaning of being righteous from God's word:”

“And I think that you are imagining things. You posted an insulting remark in one thread so I moved it to the bottomless pit.”

University Hall requires a little more professionalism than what you are evidently accustomed to. I deleted a recent slur of yours on this page and I trust that my editing of that didn't affect the rest.

I'm right about everything mathematical. I have a degree in math.

And the professional mathematicians at sci.math couldn't believe that real physicists could be so thoroughly incompetent and totally deranged as to oppose my simple logic.

The unmitigated verbal abuse and milder insults that my opponents hurl at me are easy to explain. It is the nature of small-minded bigots to become infuriated or totally insane when their cherished beliefs are questioned and clearly proven wrong.
Quote.
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.
Albert Einstein.

Where in the world do you get the idea that this forum is blocking 'me again' and that proper, respectable communication has been deleted? First, please read the worthless stuff written by 'me again' and others that we do save in The Bottomless Pit. See, for example, Why does ‘me again’ belong in The Bottomless Pit? I've deleted trash, porn and the advocacy of pedophilia. I'm not ashamed of our principles. Our limit is clearly illustrated by what is allowed in our Bottomless Pit.

I am simply exercising my right to define my ministry and to categorize those ideas that are antithetical to it.

Do you respect any ministry that teaches that Maxwell is an antichrist figure and that you have been seduced by deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons?

I would welcome specific suggestions and examples of clearer language that I could place in my user agreement. I believe I answered your questions in the other thread. I’m a better webmaster than a writer in that I’m the conquering webmaster and administrator of a forum that is better than all the others but I need help with writing out and clarifying my forum rules and theology.


Your complaint is that I copied a club Adventist threadand placed it on my web site.

After two emails sent to Walter McGill (they were alerts to ordinary Internet etiquette), your pastor completed the proper editing to make his reply readable. Upon reading his reply, I saw that it belongs in the Jail forum. You will find it there under the heading, Walter McGill – dodging the charges?

The charge is more like public intoxication, not understanding the topic, filibustering and resisting arrest!

[edit] Image It is believed that PastorChick (a.k.a. Walter McGill) is well known for conduct that is unconscionable, unfair and deceptive. Please read Beware of Walter McGill and the Creation Seventh Day Adventist Church —The Moderator [/edit]

The purpose of having a forum is to allow truth to unfold through normal conversation.

Correct. I claim to possess a whole treasure chest of new light that shines at ten times the glory of the ancient Adventist understanding and I was very excited about showing it off.

" Unquote.

You might have the semblance of a Christian argument if you showed that you respected evidence enough to post a link to each quote. I can only suspect that you don't want anyone to see the context.

Dzien Dobry wrote:You might have the semblance of a Christian argument if you showed that you respected evidence enough to post a link to each quote. I can only suspect that you don't want anyone to see the context.

Why would I need evidence and for what?
If you feel that these statements by Shubert are fair why would I need to link them?
Or do you think otherwise?

As far as context goes just look for it, it is everywhere on this site.

Eugene Shubert took a reply of mine concerning a thread by RonA and took it upon himself by placing his own title to it called ‘Prophecy Countdown’s Character’ which implies judgment of character by the use of GOD given food used by me then moved it down to jail and locked it.

So I did the same thing and took a few of Shuberts answers put them here and called it ‘Eugene Shubert’s Character.’
There’s an old saying, “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander.”

However he then moved my post from Jail to here the ‘bottomless pit’ so there are rules for the rest of us that he ignores himself.

So before you as a Christian, get suspicious of anyone and tell them in front of everyone, you should firstly check your facts.

Those statements are those of Mr Eugene Shubert, he made them of his own free will when speaking to a lot of people, what they say is what they say but to me, it is what he says that carries weight in this thread.
If you think or somehow believe that he needs defending then that is your opinion but it is NOT mine. I am just putting down what he said without comment and that is enough to make a point.

As far as you suspecting anything, without putting forward any evidence of your own about me, well that is like ‘the pot calling the kettle black,’ of course you maybe biased or you may not be.
On that simple basis then, your speculative opinion of me is simply that, speculation, an opinion which carries no weight whatsoever.
Please don’t expect me to do the linking for you that is up to you.
Offence is a poor defence.
As I stated before.
Mr Shubert is fearful of me because I can take his study of Daniel and Revelation apart biblically and he knows it.
That is why he uses unfair tactics to try and get rid of me.

I have studied Daniel and Revelation for over forty years and for Eugene Shubert to claim that he understands Daniel and Revelation after only three weeks of study is preposterous because I am reading his theories and there is no real biblical depth of detail.

So I am going to use the Bible and take Shubert's theories apart biblically to show that nobody can make a claim like that before the appointed time of the end and I will go through the LOT bit by bit to prove many errors point by point.

Also for someone to have a vision and not recall the detail of it makes it worthless and when he was closely scrutinised about it by ‘me again’ he got cagey and used his powers to dump ‘me again’ down here.
We will see what you are made of Eugene Shubert, I'm coming with the power of scripture and I will use it.
PC

Acts 13:9-10
But Saul, who was also known as Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, fixed his gaze on him, and said, "You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord?"

Jude 1:10-16
New King James Version (NKJV):

But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. Woe to them! For they have gone in the way of Cain, have run greedily in the error of Balaam for profit, and perished in the rebellion of Korah.

Apostates Depraved and Doomed

These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
Now Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied about these men also, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him."

Apostates Predicted

These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage.

Re Eugene Shubert’s character.
Your last post I feel is a little too hard on yourself Eugene but it is a start in the right direction.

A true Prophet has a capital P signifying his rank as such.
I can’t agree that ‘morons oppose prophets’ morons follow false prophets and are usually too indoctrinated by them to recognise them as false and place them above the Prophets of the Bible and the word of God.

This next verse I chose especially or you dear Eugene, for your edification a good guide in considering carefully who is or is not a true Prophet.
Luke 13: 33. Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: for it cannot be that a prophet perish out of Jerusalem.

The words from Jesus should quell any desire to follow any prophet that hasn’t died in Jerusalem.

After considering your claim that you understand Daniel and Revelation after only three weeks let’s put your claim to a simple little test.

Can you name the ID of the little horn from the book of Daniel?
Can you explain the blessing from the book of Daniel?
How long is the time of the end?
Have you understood what the name Grecia means?
Do you know the ID of the lion, bear, leopard, and fourth beast of Daniel 7.
Do you understand who the four are that rise up at the time of the end in Daniel 8?
Who are the remnant that are given a short time and for what purpose?
How many visions did Daniel have?
What vision was concerned with ‘the time of the end’ and the 'last end of the indignation?'

What particular word was added to Daniel 8 by the translators?
What modern name is used for the Ulai and what location is it found see my study for the answer?
Why does the higher horn come up last in the book of Daniel 8?
What locations are used in Daniel 8 concerning the time of the end?

When you claim to understand all of Daniel which Bible verse of Daniel are you in conflict with where it tells us that the words are sealed?
If you do not answer these simple basic questions then we will understand how much you do understand.

I have dozens more questions to ask of you.

Have a progressive and unaggressive day, being at peace with yourself and others and love your humble friends like PC and try to stop using warnings as a weapon to silence others then one day you may find a true appreciation of what it means to be a true Bible Understanding Christian.

PC

If anyone has a question or two concerning Daniel or Revelation and would like a private reply from me please don’t hesitate to ask me at pggk@dodo.com.au and I will treat your communication within strict confidence.
Please do not send private mail through this site.
Only by E-mail.

PC.

I for one am new here and would like to get to know more about Eugen Shubert. Certainly I agree that Graham Maxwell offers doctrinal error free for the taking.

in Christ,

Bob