Should Seventh-day Shubertians apologize to the Apostle Paul?

Seventh-day Shubertians recognize the difference between Christ's teachings on the judgment versus the general understanding presented by the Apostle Paul.

According to Paul, there is a day when God will judge the secrets of human hearts.

"But you, why do you judge your brother? Or you again, why do you regard your brother with contempt? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God." Romans 14:10.

"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad." 2 Corinthians 5:10.

"They show that what the law requires is written on their hearts, to which their own conscience also bears witness; and their conflicting thoughts will accuse or perhaps excuse them on the day when, according to my gospel, God, through Jesus Christ, will judge the secret thoughts of all." Romans 2:15-16.

Proverbs 20:27
The spirit of man is the lamp of the Lord,
searching all his innermost parts.

The official Seventh-day Shubertian doctrine on the judgment revealed by Jesus Christ is astonishingly more precise:

The Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son (John 5:22). Christ will not judge believers (John 5:24). He will not even accuse the wicked (John 5:45). Nevertheless, Jesus Christ will confirm the judgment that we have of ourselves. In this judgment, Christ merely listens to all the confessions made and responds accordingly (Matthew 25:14-30).

Thus, even Dr. Desmond Ford and New Age spiritualists will acknowledge the fairness of Christ's great, final, awesome settling of destiny. "Each mind will judge itself and not another." "The judgment will be right, because it is the judgment of self."

For those that are incapable of checking various translations of the Greek word krisis in John 5:24, please note that the KJV translates Strong's G2920 in the following manner: judgment (41x), damnation (3x), accusation (2x), condemnation (2x).
https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Le ... ongs=G2920

And please note the given definition:

Strong's Concordance: 2920.
krisis: a decision, judgment
Short Definition: judging, divine judgment
Definition: judging, judgment, decision, sentence; generally: divine judgment; accusation.
http://biblehub.com/greek/2920.htm

Conclusion: Jesus Christ will only be ratifying judgments already made

John 3
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. 18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. 20 For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. 21 But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God. John 3:16-21.

John 9
39 Jesus said, “I came into this world for judgment so that those who do not see may see, and those who do see may become blind.”

John 12
46 I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness. 47 And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world. 48 He who rejects Me, and does not receive My words, has that which judges him—the word that I have spoken will judge him in the last day.

Luke 6:45
The good man out of the good treasure of his heart brings forth what is good; and the evil man out of the evil treasure brings forth what is evil; for his mouth speaks from that which fills his heart.

Luke 16:15
And He said to them, "You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is highly esteemed among men is an abomination in the sight of God."

Matthew 12:37
For by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

1 John 3:21
Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence before God.

The final, awesome settling of destiny in Matthew 25:14-30 cf. Luke 19:11-27 is represented by the long and extraordinarily solemn silence in heaven as witnessed by the Apostle John in a vision. It began when Christ opened the book of Destiny (Revelation 8:1) on October 23rd 1844 at 12AM Eastern-Standard Time.

Christ is now finalizing the judgments of individuals that are allegedly in the kingdom of God.

Matthew 7:1-2
Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Mark 4:21-22
He said to them, “Do you bring in a lamp to put it under a bowl or a bed? Instead, don’t you put it on its stand? For whatever is hidden is meant to be disclosed, and whatever is concealed is meant to be brought out into the open.”

To understand the timing of the final, awesome settling of destiny, see https://zoghasfallen.wordpress.com/the- ... -biblical/

Don't wait too long. There is a time when our probation will close.

Matthew 25
“Then the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went to meet the bridegroom. 2 Five of them were foolish, and five were wise. 3 For when the foolish took their lamps, they took no oil with them, 4 but the wise took flasks of oil with their lamps. 5 As the bridegroom was delayed, they all became drowsy and slept. 6 But at midnight there was a cry, ‘Here is the bridegroom! Come out to meet him.’ 7 Then all those virgins rose and trimmed their lamps. 8 And the foolish said to the wise, ‘Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.’ 9 But the wise answered, saying, ‘Since there will not be enough for us and for you, go rather to the dealers and buy for yourselves.’ 10 And while they were going to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the marriage feast, and the door was shut. 11 Afterward the other virgins came also, saying, ‘Lord, lord, open to us.’ 12 But he answered, ‘Truly, I say to you, I do not know you.’ 13 Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

Revelation 22
10 And he said to me, “Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near. 11 Let the evildoer still do evil, and the filthy still be filthy, and the righteous still do right, and the holy still be holy.”

12 “Behold, I am coming soon, bringing my recompense with me, to repay each one for what he has done.

The Millerites ate an open book (Daniel 12:4). John ate an open book (Revelation 10:8-9). The consequences of the Millerites eating the open book was a sweet then bitter experience. John's reaction to eating the open book was also sweet, then bitter. Immediately following that Great Disappointment, John was asked to "measure the temple of God and the altar, and those who worship in it." Revelation 11:1. Indisputably, prophets are known to participate symbolically in the judgments of God (Ezekiel 4:1-8). It's very reasonable to conclude therefore that John participated symbolically in Christ's measuring of professing Christians and the Church, which began October 23rd 1844 at 12AM Eastern-Standard Time.

See how nicely this interpretation fits The Large-Scale Structure of the Book of Revelation.

Sarah Sorensen wrote:Daniel 2 points out that after the rock strikes the feet, then IT GROWS big and covers the EARTH!. That is the EARTHLY MILLENNIUM. THE GC is giving special study to this, since SDA is the ONLY group who believes in a 1000 year heavenly check on Christ's judgment of their lost friends and family. With due respect, is there any more SATANIC rubbish than THAT!!

It's true that Daniel 2 teaches an earthly millennium. However, Christ updated that prophecy in the New Testament. Indisputably, Confessing Millerite Adventist doctrine is entirely Biblical. The Apostle Paul made it clear that the saints will be judging everything about this life and the world, including angels.

1 Corinthians 6
If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!

1 Corinthians 4
This, then, is how you ought to regard us: as servants of Christ and as those entrusted with the mysteries God has revealed. 2 Now it is required that those who have been given a trust must prove faithful. 3 I care very little if I am judged by you or by any human court; indeed, I do not even judge myself. 4 My conscience is clear, but that does not make me innocent. It is the Lord who judges me. 5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait until the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of the heart. At that time each will receive their praise from God.

Pastor Pootje wrote:Rev 5:10 says it will happen ON EARTH.

Revelation 5:10
"You have made them to be a kingdom and priests to serve our God, and they will reign on the earth."

Jesus also promised to take us to heaven. Don't you know that we will judge angels? I make judgments against evil whenever I learn pertinent facts.

Slaphappy wrote:Like Satan you seek to be a god by insisting you can judge yourself.

I find it amazing that some Seventh-day Adventists are so thoroughly deceived that they imagine that judging themselves is from Satan.

2 Corinthians 13:5
Examine yourselves to see whether you are in the faith; test yourselves. Do you not realize that Christ Jesus is in you--unless, of course, you fail the test? -- N.I.V.

John 5:24 New King James Version (NKJV)
Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

What does this Scripture say?

Indisputably, to hear Christ's word and to believe in Him who sent Christ is to pass immediately from death to everlasting life, thereby bypassing the Seventh-day Adventist misconception of the Investigative Judgment.

John 3:36
He who believes in the Son has eternal life; but he who does not obey the Son will not see life, but the wrath of God abides on him.

Romans 2
5 Because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 He will render to each one according to his works: 7 to those who by patience in well-doing seek for glory and honor and immortality, he will give eternal life; 8 but for those who are self-seeking and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, there will be wrath and fury.

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