The Confessing Seventh-day Adventist

Ron Beaulieu claims to be a prophet called by the Lord to devote all his time to the advancement of the Three Angel's Messages but he is obviously mistaken. There isn't the slightest bit of evidence that he understands the meaning of Revelation 14:6-12.

Sadly, Mr. Beaulieu thinks that his compilations of the writings of Ellen G. White and his understanding of them somehow qualifies him as some sort of special messenger and interpreter.
http://omega77.tripod.com/biorwb.htm
I don't think that Ellen White's writings need interpretation. I think that Sister White's message is plain and readily transparent.

Another great mistake that Ron Beaulieu has fallen into is that he spends too much time creating or exaggerating minor errors to rail against. http://omega77.tripod.com/indepth.htm
It is for this reason that Sister White said that we should dwell on affirmative truths:

"Often, as you seek to present the truth, opposition will be aroused; but if you seek to meet the opposition with argument, you will only multiply it, and this you cannot afford to do. Hold to the affirmative. Angels of God are watching you, and they understand how to impress those whose opposition you refuse to meet with arguments. Dwell not on the negative points of questions that arise, but gather to your minds affirmative truths, and fasten them there by much study, earnest prayer, and heart consecration. Keep your lamps trimmed and burning, and let bright rays shine forth, that men, beholding your good works, may be led to glorify your Father who is in heaven."

"If Christ had not held to the affirmative in the wilderness of temptation, He would have lost all that He desired to gain. Christ's way is the best way to meet our opponents. We strengthen their arguments when we repeat what they say. Keep always to the affirmative. It may be that the very man who is opposing you will carry your words home, and be converted to the sensible truth that has reached his understanding."

"Do not cherish a spirit of controversy. Little good is accomplished by denunciatory speeches. The surest way to destroy false doctrine is to preach the truth. Keep to the affirmative. Let the precious truths of the gospel kill the force of evil. Show a tender, pitiful spirit toward the erring. Come close to hearts."

Remembering that you have to scroll down past a disclaimer, what's your reply to Ron Beaulieu's rebuttal that he posted at the link that you posted above??:

http://omega77.tripod.com/biorwb.htm

“Sadly, Mr. Beaulieu thinks that his compilations of the writings of Ellen G. White and his understanding of them somehow qualifies him as some sort of special messenger and interpreter.
http://omega77.tripod.com/biorwb.htm

Schubert: I don't think that Ellen White's writings need interpretation. I think that Sister White's message is plain and readily transparent....”

Ron’s response: Mr. Schubert has misinterpreted a few Ellen White statements to make it appear that all we should be involved with is a peace and safety affirmative message. I deal with far more than just a few such statements by Ellen G. White. I relate her statements JUST AS THEY READ to Biblical statements JUST AS THEY READ. Ellen White accused the leaders of misrepresenting her statements out of context and I employ the following formula scrupulously to establish her statements that have been misrepresented back into the proper context:

Mr. Beaulieu's comment (marked in red) is an outrageous distortion of my record. I have a huge number of anything but peace messages on this forum. Ron Beaulieu is certainly not a very discerning prophet, is he?

Schubert: “Another great mistake that Ron Beaulieu has fallen into is that he spends too much time creating or exaggerating minor errors to rail against. http://omega77.tripod.com/indepth.htm
It is for this reason that Sister White said that we should dwell on affirmative truths.

Ron responds: I believe that any thinking person who makes an honest study of the issues I deal in will conclude that they are not minor exaggerations of mere “minor errors, that I have “created.” Here is a study of the all important issues I deal in:

http://omega77.tripod.com/indepth.htm

Excellent. Permit me to select a few good examples from Mr. Beaulieu's list.

2. The error that we are saved as a denomination:

"We ARE NOT saved as a sect; no denominational name has any virtue to bring us into favor with God. We are saved individually as believers in the Lord Jesus Christ." E.G. White, Review and Herald Articles, vol. 2, p. 464.

There is no example given that presently, or in the recent past, the SDA Church has denied that we are saved individually. Did Sister White ever say this was a big problem in her day?

4. The error that another SDA church would constitute an 8th church:

This accusation reveals the imaginative plot-creations of Ron Beaulieu's mind. To prove the error he says exists, which makes little sense to me, Ron mentions some vague accusation that a statement by James White was "countermanded by the editorial staff of the SDA Bible Commentary!" But Ron supplies zero evidence!

The next item was posted by my daughter Racquelle (Beaulieu) Pilon, on Eugene Schubert’s board:

Here is my daughter’s testimony against me. By the way, Eugene Shubert (alias Shubee) has claimed to be a prophet.

Ron Beaulieu has multiple factual errors here.

Racquelle (Beaulieu) Pilon has never been a member of this board; she has never posted here and again Mr. Beaulieu has nothing to offer as evidence.

Also, Mr. Beaulieu contends that I have claimed to be a prophet and again he reveals that his mind is operating without any concern that he should present evidence, such as a valid when and where, or even a quote. I can only recall lengthy and very detailed assertions by me where I strongly deny being a prophet. See http://www.everythingimportant.org/SDA/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1255

Here's a more detailed rebuttal from Ron Beaulieu regarding Eugene Shubert:

http://omega77.tripod.com/biorwb.htm

There is much that I choose to let “go by the board” concerning my detractors, but some things have to be met. The misrepresentation you have just read at the link that referred you here, is just patently false. Here is what is misrepresented concerning me at the following link:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sev ... R1A5IGLVDF

I will intersperse my response to Mr. Eugene Schubert (schubee) below his comments constituting the following diatribe:

“Ron Beaulieu claims to be a prophet called by the Lord to devote all his time to the advancement of the Three Angel’s Messages but he is obviously mistaken. There isn’t the slightest bit of evidence that he understands the meaning of Revelation 14:6-12.

Ron responds: Ellen White stated that the three angel’s messages covers a broad spectrum of data that even most SDA ministers do not comprehend. In her statement below, Ellen White refers to the National Reform Movement. That was the predecessor to the ecumenical movement of today. Here is what she says about that movement:

“The peculiar work of the third angel has not been seen in its importance. God meant that His people should be far in advance of the position which they occupy today. But now, when the time has come for them to spring into action, they have the preparation to make. When the National Reformers [the title of the ecumenical movement before it became the Federal Council of Churches in 1908, and then the World Council of Churches, in 1948] began to urge measures to restrict religious liberty, our leading men should have been alive to the situation and should have labored earnestly to counteract these efforts. It is not in the order of God that light has been kept from our people—the very present truth which they needed for this time. Not all our ministers who are giving the third angel’s message really understand what constitutes that message. The National Reform [Ecumenical] movement has been regarded by some as of so little importance that they have not thought it necessary to give much attention to it and have even felt that in so doing they would be giving time to questions distinct from the third angel’s message [the Everlasting Gospel of Revelation 14]. May the Lord forgive our brethren for thus interpreting the very message for this time.” E.G. White, Testimonies, Vol. 5, 714, 715.

It should be obvious to anyone who truly understands the three angel’s messages, that they warn us to come out of Babylon and that we must stay out. The ecumenical movement would include all Christians of the world in one New World Order church, one New World Order day of worship (Sunday), one New world Order banking system, and one New World order government per the feet and toes kingdom described in Daniel 2. So in giving much time to the SDA church’s involvement with the ecumenical movement, I have been dealing directly with the three angel’s messages in a way that Mr. Schubert does not understand. He may well lose out on salvation because of lack of knowledge, because Ellen White says in Word to the Little Flock, p. 14, that all who stray from the Midnight Cry, of 1844, after hearing and understanding it, will fall off the pathway to heaven and that it will be IMPOSSIBLE to get back on it. So this is a very serious issue. Ellen White said that the Midnight Cry gave power to the second angel’s message in 1844, and that it will be repeated as part of the final Loud Cry message.

So it seems to be Mr. Schubert who does not understand the three angel’s messages and the Midnight Cry obligation, especially as they are implicated with Isaiah 8:9-12 and Matthew 25:1-5, along with the express duty to repudiate serious errors of apostasy that have crept into the church:

“The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A NEW ORGANIZATION would be established. Books of a NEW ORDER would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the NEW MOVEMENT. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but GOD BEING REMOVED, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.

Who has authority to begin such a [NEW] movement? We have our Bibles, we have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth? E.G. White, Selected Messages, Vol. 1, 204, 205.


“Sadly, Mr. Beaulieu thinks that his compilations of the writings of Ellen G. White and his understanding of them somehow qualifies him as some sort of special messenger and interpreter.
http://omega77.tripod.com/biorwb.htm

Schubert: I don't think that Ellen White's writings need interpretation. I think that Sister White's message is plain and readily transparent....”

Ron’s response: Mr. Schubert has misinterpreted a few Ellen White statements to make it appear that all we should be involved with is a peace and safety affirmative message. I deal with far more than just a few such statements by Ellen G. White. I relate her statements JUST AS THEY READ to Biblical statements JUST AS THEY READ. Ellen White accused the leaders of misrepresenting her statements out of context and I employ the following formula scrupulously to establish her statements that have been misrepresented back into the proper context:

1. Weight of Evidence Formula: "1. Every word must have its proper bearing on the subject presented in the Bible 2. All Scripture is necessary, and may be understood by diligent application and study 3. Nothing revealed in Scripture can or will be hid from those who ask in faith, not wavering 4. To understand doctrine, bring all the scriptures together on the subject you wish to know, then let every word have its proper influence and if you can form your theory without a contradiction, you cannot be in error 5. Scripture must be its own expositor, [interpreter] since it is a rule of itself. If I depend on a teacher to expound to me, and he should guess at its meaning, or desire to have it so on account of his sectarian creed, or to be thought wise, then his guessing, desire, creed, or wisdom is my rule, and not the Bible." E.G. White, Second Advent Review and Herald, 11-25-34, pr. 24.

I also relate visions of important insight that God has given to me to relate to His people.


Schubert: “Another great mistake that Ron Beaulieu has fallen into is that he spends too much time creating or exaggerating minor errors to rail against.

http://omega77.tripod.com/indepth.htm

It is for this reason that Sister White said that we should dwell on affirmative truths.


Ron responds: I believe that any thinking person who makes an honest study of the issues I deal in will conclude that they are not minor exaggerations of mere “minor errors, that I have “created.” Here is a study of the all important issues I deal in:

http://omega77.tripod.com/indepth.htm

The following statements by Ellen White, as quoted by Mr. Schubert, totally ignore any sighing and crying for all the abominations upon which our being sealed by the Man in Linen (Ezekiel 9) is predicated and CONDITIONAL TO:

“Who are standing in the counsel of God at this time? Is it those who virtually excuse wrongs among the professed people of God, and murmur in their hearts, if not openly, against those who would reprove sin? It is those who take their stand against them, and sympathize with those who commit wrong?--No, indeed! These, unless they repent, and leave the work of Satan in oppressing those who have the burden of the work, and in holding up the hands of sinners in Zion, will never receive the mark of God's sealing approval. They will fall in the general destruction of all the wicked, represented by the five men bearing slaughter weapons. Mark this point with care; those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by the man in linen, are those "that sigh and cry for all the abominations that are done" in the church. Their love for purity and the honor and glory of God is such, and they have so clear a view of the exceeding sinfulness of sin, that they are represented as being in an agony, even sighing and crying.” E.G. White, {Review and Herald Articles, June 8, 1886 par. 2}

Apparently, Mr. Schubert uses only a few Ellen White statements to excuse his total lack in sighing and crying for all the abominations in the church, and the unpopular duty of fulfilling Isaiah 58:1. There are a lot of Adventists who choose to take the same position Mr. Schubert takes and for the same reason. Indifference to strictly forbidden apostasy, is far different than mere questions that arise:

"If God abhors one sin above another, of which His people are guilty, it is doing nothing in case of an emergency. Indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis is regarded of God as a grevious crime and equal to the very worst type of hostility against God." Testimonies, Vol.3, p.281.

It should be totally apparent to the discerning reader that Mr. Eugene Schubert does not possess the spiritual discernment to distinguish between gross apostasies that constitute an emergency and the omega of apostasy by the SDA church, so he chooses indifference and neutrality in a religious crisis of the greatest magnitude. His indifference is the very worst type of hostility against God, and those whom God is using to expose the emergency of omega apostasy. Here are the Ellen White statements he and they hide behind.

"Dwell not on the negative points of questions that arise, but gather to your minds affirmative truths, and fasten them there by much study and earnest prayer and heart consecration. Keep your lamps trimmed and burning; and let bright rays shine forth, that men, beholding your good works, may be led to glorify your Father which is in heaven."


Ron responds: My Website is full of affirmative truths, but are all the abominations of apostasy negative points we to deal with them? Let’s let Ellen White answer:

“Mark this point with care: Those who receive the pure mark of truth, wrought in them by the power of the Holy Ghost, represented by a mark by the man in linen, are those "that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done" in the church.” {Mar 240.1}

“Reproofs always hurt human nature. Many are the souls that have been destroyed by the unwise sympathy of their brethren; for, because the brethren sympathized with them, they thought they must indeed have been abused, and that the reprover was all wrong and had a bad spirit. The only hope for sinners in Zion is to fully see and confess their wrongs, and put them away. Those who step in to destroy the edge of sharp reproof that God sends, saying that the reprover was partly wrong and the reproved was not just right, please the enemy. Any way that Satan can devise to make the reproofs of none effect will accomplish his design. Some will lay blame upon the one whom God has sent with a message of warning, saying, He is too severe; and in so doing they become responsible for the soul of the sinner whom God desired to save, and to whom, because He loved him, He sent correction, that he might humble his soul before God and put his sins from him. These false sympathizers will have an account to settle with the Master by-and-by for their work of death.”{3T 329.1}


Schubert quotes:

"Often, as you seek to present the truth, opposition will be aroused; but if you seek to meet the opposition with argument, you will only multiply it, and this you cannot afford to do. Hold to the affirmative. Angels of God are watching you, and they understand how to impress those whose opposition you refuse to meet with arguments. Dwell not on the negative points of questions that arise, but gather to your minds affirmative truths, and fasten them there by much study, earnest prayer, and heart consecration. Keep your lamps trimmed and burning, and let bright rays shine forth, that men, beholding your good works, may be led to glorify your Father who is in heaven."

"If Christ had not held to the affirmative in the wilderness of temptation, He would have lost all that He desired to gain. Christ's way is the best way to meet our opponents. We strengthen their arguments when we repeat what they say. Keep always to the affirmative. It may be that the very man who is opposing you will carry your words home, and be converted to the sensible truth that has reached his understanding."

"Do not cherish a spirit of controversy. Little good is accomplished by denunciatory speeches. The surest way to destroy false doctrine is to preach the truth. Keep to the affirmative. Let the precious truths of the gospel kill the force of evil. Show a tender, pitiful spirit toward the erring. Come close to hearts."

Eugene Schubert


Ron responds to the above three statements quoted by Schubert:

Gross apostasy in the church calls for a response and only those who warn the people of such apostasy will be sealed according to Ezekiel 9. Ellen White says that the entire chapter of Isaiah 58:1 is our work.

Schubert: I don't think that Ellen White's writings need interpretation. I think that Sister White's message is plain and readily transparent....”

Ron’s response: … I deal with far more than just a few such statements by Ellen G. White. I relate her statements JUST AS THEY READ to Biblical statements JUST AS THEY READ. Ellen White accused the leaders of misrepresenting her statements out of context and I employ the following formula scrupulously to establish her statements that have been misrepresented back into the proper context:

Mr. Beaulieu isn't aware of the most relevant issues. He seems to feel that church leaders are misinterpreting Ellen G. White due to an error of carelessly ignoring context. I am right in affirming however that the hierarchy doesn't want to obey the Spirit of prophecy and thus they are intentionally ignoring God.

Where did Sister White say of the Seventh-day Adventist leadership that they had a problem understanding her messages in context? Mr. Beaulieu doesn't say, which is very typical of his accusations, but it confirms my judgment of him.

I also relate visions of important insight that God has given to me to relate to His people.

Mr. Beaulieu's supposed revelations are obviously from the stirrings and fabrications of his own legalistic mind and they clearly have no sacred character to them whatsoever.

There are also false dreams, as well as false visions, which are inspired by the spirit of Satan. {1T 569.2}

Some of Ron Beaulieu's false visions below--

on reincarnation
http://omega77.tripod.com/regenerationvisionapril12.htm

on evolution
http://omega77.tripod.com/visionoct212009.htm

What true prophet of God would teach reincarnation and evolution? Only a false one!

Reincarnation -- Satan's Second-Biggest Lie-- reincarnation is a core doctrine of many Eastern religions, such as Hinduism. It is the belief that a single soul goes through many physical lives, that when a person's body dies, his soul enters a new body prior to that body's birth.

J. W. Johnson taught Ron Beaulieu his false teachings on evolution and reincarnation. Then Satan gives his servant Ron Beaulieu false visions confirming the lies he told J. W. Johnson.

http://omega77.tripod.com/johnsoncovenantpart2.htm

BEWARE and avoid Ron Beaulieu like a plague.

Besides all of the theological issues, Ron Beaulieu's daughter, Racquelle Pilon (nee Beaulieu), alleged criminal conduct in the topix thread, which also includes other relevant comments from other third parties!!:

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sev ... R1A5IGLVDF

http://www.topix.com/forum/religion/sev ... 5IGLVDF/p2

"As the daughter of Ron Beaulieu, I felt I may have a couple of things to say on this particular topic and some light to shed on the character of my father. I don't write this in bitterness or in anyway to unnecessarily defame my father. I write this in love and concern as I have seen many people deceived and hurt by him with no recourse to help in any way. I have not spoken to nor had any contact with my father for the past 20 years, due to my father's character and actions. What my father fails to mention in his biography is that he was married and has 4 children - myself, my 2 brothers, and a half brother whom I've never met. He was repeatedly almost pathologically unfaithful to my mother, causing her to leave him several times. At one point, while attending Southern Missionary College, my mother became aware of an extramarital affair with a fellow student and left my father to return to her family in Canada. During this separation, my father lied to both his lover and his family, claiming he obtained a divorce from mother. Upon his claims, he and the other women were married (while still be legally married to my mother). All of this information has be related to me by mother and confirmed by my father's sisters. Upon learning that he was still in fact married to my mother, his illegal wife left him, taking their unborn child with her. My mother granted my father a divorce to save he from facing prosecution is the US. All of these events happened after 1960 'the year Ron was first called by the Lord, to begin the task of exposing the cherished errors of the professing SDA Church.' Upon his return to immigration to Canada in 1973, my father returned to my mother with the claims that he wanted his family back and that they would be remarried. None of this was true, and in the course of things my father had my mother sell her home supposedly to buy a new larger place for the family but, instead, used the funds to purchase his own place. My mother finally left him for good in 1976. My relationship with him remained difficult and hurtful until I cut all ties with him to keep my children from being influenced or hurt by him in any way. My father was violent and abusive father to my brothers and a neglectful parent to me. He sets himself as some kind of prophet, even setting up his own 'compound' about 15yrs ago in Alberta taking tithe and the life savings of his 'followers'. I received a sad phone call one afternoon from a women looking for some information that might help her retrieve the over $20,000 she and her husband had been deceived into turning over to his 'ministry'. My father was exposed to the teachings of the Shepard's Rod at a young age and the influence their spirit and teachings can been seen in his spirit and teachings. I believe in forgiveness, redemption and the new birth. I have forgiven my father and I would never bring up a moment of his past if he has in anyway sought restitution form those he has hurt. I cannot judge a man's heart and perhaps my father has truly and sincerely repented of all his sins. I do believe though, that the fruit of that would be seen in humility and the seeking out of those he has sinned against. On the contrary, he continues to blame and cast dispersions on the character of the very ones he has hurt, refusing responsibility, blaming my mother for his infidelity even labelling my brothers and I his 'devil children'. All I can say is; 'Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.' Matthew7:19-21
Sincerely,
Racquelle Pilon (nee Beaulieu)"

Hi Orion7,

I believe that you got 1 out of 2 points right. That's not as bad as it seems. I'm pleased with your high marks.

The first of your links takes us to a page where the word reincarnation only appears once. The document there says, "Satan’s counterfeit of regeneration is reincarnation." Is that the comment you're protesting?

I firmly agree with you however that the second link teaches evolution:

The original methodology Christ employed for creation was through the agency of natural laws. Long periods of time were permitted for the development of new things as is evinced by the course of nature even today. This was God’s normal method of creation. It was this slow process of true “evolution” that gave rise to Satan’s illusion that he could rival Christ in the creation process.

I noticed that there is no name attached to this fiction from the prince of darkness but I see no hint that it was written by anyone other than Ron Beaulieu.

The first of your links takes us to a page where the word reincarnation only appears once. The document there says, "Satan’s counterfeit of regeneration is reincarnation." Is that the comment you're protesting?

I fully believe Ron Beaulieu is teaching reincarnation-- he calls it regeneration but that is so he can cover what he really means. Claims the Church of Philadelphia is alive today in different bodies but do not know who they are.

Sounds like reincarnation to me.

Another message from Ron Beaulieu's daughter, Racquelle Pilon (nee Beaulieu)!!:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adventism_prophecy

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/adventism ... sage/22399

Sat, May 1, 2010, 6:45 am:

"Hi Gary,
I am so pleased to hear from you. I am so very thankful that what I had to share was helpful to you. My intention in writing was never in any way malicious. I just thought that if even one person read it and was saved from all the hurt and garbage that follow in the Dad's wake, then it was worth the effort. I was very saddened to find that he was still up to all of his same old stuff. He was in a very serious car accident about 8 or 9 years ago and suffered a serious head injury. I thought maybe he had slowed down as a result. A pastor of mine who had met my father through me many years ago (and who is perhaps the most sincere Christ-like individual I know) pointed me to my dad's website and I just couldn't believe it. The (new to me) claims to be a prophet the, rewriting of his history that removes his marriages, his children, his shame, was a surprise.

My dad can be a very charming charismatic man when he chooses to be and I have watched him wield an unbelievable amount of influence over people. He inspires the type of blind faith you've observed in some people that is truly surprising to me. Surprising because he can only maintain the facade of charm for so long; sooner of later he always shows his spots. So, yes, the tirade against me is completely in character and something I expected should he come across my post.

My dad uses he intelligence and verbosity as a weapon against anyone who dares to disagree with or speak against him in anyway. Since this group you were a part of apparently believes everything he says, they have not witnessed this side of his character yet. If you have the opportunity, I would challenge one of the other members of this group to challenge something my father says, disagree with him in some matter and then see what he does, what his character reveals. Numerous affairs is an inadequate description. Dad is a pathological liar and womanizer. My brothers and I have all fought our own demons as we have faced a part of his character in each of us; the sins of the father.

I am humbled and grateful to used by God as an answer to prayer. Thank you for getting in touch with me.

Racquelle Pilon (nee Beaulieu)"

susan172992 wrote: Eugene Shubert wrote: "Where did Sister White say of the Seventh-day Adventist leadership that they had a problem understanding her messages in context? Mr. Beaulieu doesn't say, which is very typical of his accusations, but it confirms my judgment of him."

Ron Beaulieu replies:

God says that ALL SDA leaders cannot understand. Isaiah 58:1.

Right, so Beaulieu believes that Isaiah spent a lot of his time trying to teach the apostate leaders of his day proper Biblical exegesis so that they could understand Isaiah's written messages?