Dispy prophecy is an interpretation system popularised 100 years ago by the Scofield Bible & the US Fundamentalists. IMO it is not a system of prophecy in accordance with the principles outlined in your final paragraph - which I do agree with.Zog Has-fallen wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2019 2:46 pmThe dispy prophecies - I'm surprised by your open disrespect for Bible prophecy.Covenanter wrote: ↑Thu May 09, 2019 2:38 pmI have no interest in the dispy prophecies, nor date-setting SDA & Millerite prophecies, nor Kellogg diet information.
added - How can you continue to justify the SDA & Miller prophecies that had no apparent fulfilment, not effect a change in the Gospel situation in all the world? The Preterist interpretation is directly related to Jesus' Olivet prophecy concerning the generation that rejected him.
I have a very high regard for Bible prophecy. I look for fulfilment of OT prophecy to the hearers in the context situation, and with regard to Jesus' incarnation, ministry & atoning death & resurrection, and of course the Gospel. NT prophecy related to the Gospel age, but is particularly concerned with AD 70. Olivet & Revelation, & Jesus final coming.
Wherever do you get 2,300 years????? And where does Scripture prophesy a specific time for the ending of the world????? Jesus warns against such calculations, except for the destruction within a generation.All conclusions depend upon presuppositions. It's obvious that Preterists presuppose and revere a retro-fit (history defines prophecy) methodology. The scientific Seventh-day Millerite hermeneutic for the proper understanding of the book of Daniel comes from the text itself. In brief, the prophecies mean what the words meant, i.e., should have meant and implied, to the original audience.
DANIEL 2
“There is a God in heaven who reveals mysteries. He has shown King Nebuchadnezzar what will happen in the days to come. Your dream and the vision that passed through your mind as you lay on your bed are these: As you were lying there, O king, your mind turned to things to come, and the revealer of mysteries showed you what is going to happen. As for me, this mystery has been revealed to me, not because I have greater wisdom than other living men, but so that you, O king, may know the interpretation and that you may understand what went through your mind” (2:28-30 NIV).
DANIEL 8
“And it came about when I, Daniel, had seen the vision, that I sought to understand it; and behold, standing before me was one who looked like a man. And I heard the voice of a man between the banks of Ulai, and he called out and said, ‘Gabriel, give this man an understanding of the vision’ ” (8:16). ... “Son of man, understand that...” (8:17). “And he said, ‘Behold, I am going to let you know
what will occur...’ (8:19).
DANIEL 9
“While I was still speaking in prayer, then the man Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision previously, came to me in my extreme weariness about the time of the evening offering. And he gave me instruction and talked with me, and said, ‘O Daniel, I have now come forth to give you insight with understanding. At the beginning of your supplications the command was issued, and I have come to tell you, for you are highly esteemed; so give heed to the message and gain understanding of the vision’ ” (9:21-23).
DANIEL 10
“In the third year of Cyrus king of Persia, a revelation was given to Daniel (who was called Belteshazzer). Its message was true and it concerned a great war. The understanding of the message came to him in vision” (10:1 NIV).
“Now I have come to give you an understanding of what will happen to your people in the latter days, for the vision pertains to the days yet future” (10:14).
Consequently, I consider it to be grossly immoral and unquestionably unscientific to force a purported revelation to have a fulfillment. If a Bible prophet said, implied, or in any way insinuated that the world was scheduled to end 2,300 years after a specific event, then so be it. In other words, I believe in contextual realism.
Daniel wrote - He said to me, “It will take 2,300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”
Miller argues that a prophetic day means a year, but "evenings & mornings" obviously is intended to mean days, NOT years.
“The aim of the grammatico-historical method is to determine the meaning required of Scripture by the laws of grammar and the facts of history. The grammatical meaning is the simple, direct, plain, ordinary, and literal sense of the phrases, clauses, and sentences. The historical meaning is that sense which is demanded by a careful consideration of the time and circumstances in which the author wrote. It is the specific meaning which an author’s words require when the historical context and background are taken into account. Thus, the grand object of grammatical and historical interpretation is to ascertain the specific usage of words as employed by an individual writer as prevalent in a particular age.” — (Walter C. Kaiser, Jr., Toward An Exegetical Theology, p. 88).
