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Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:23 pm Post subject: THE BIBLE AND TRUTH
THE BIBLE AND TRUTH
ARE IMAGES & PICTURES OF JESUS CHRIST & THE GREAT PROPHETS, APOSTLES
PLEASING TO GOD?
Within the Christian community there are some believers that Preach and Teach that images of Jesus Christ, Prophets and Apostles are useful as a teaching aid as an illustration. They also attempt to note that Scripture is in support of this sinful act. Therefore, we will begin this discussion by noting the definitive qualities of images. Then we will take into consideration
specific questions regarding images. Attached to these questions are also various scriptures that attempt to support the use of images. However we note that there is no scripture that supports the use of images of Jesus Christ. Nor is there scripture that supports the use of images of the Prophets and Apostles. Furthermore when this erroneous notion is projected it comes from man and not God.
Images: Usually, visible representations of a person or things. An image that is an object of worship an idol. Image: A likeness or similarity. Scripture that note this:
Genesis 1:26-27. Man in our image.
Genesis 5:3 & 1-2. Image of Son.
Job 4: 16-17.
Matthew 22: 20. Image of Caesar whose image is on a coin.
Romans 8: 29. Image of the Son.
2 Corinthians 4: 4 & 1-6. Image of Christ and God.
Daniel 2:31. And behold a great image.
Hebrews 10:1. Not the very image of the.
(The New Combined Bible Dictionary and Concordance, Baker Book House, 1981, p. 236).
Also it is noted that images have a relationship with idols and idolatry. Idolatry is the worship of idols or gods supposedly dwelling in images or represented by them. This ancient practice existed among the ancestors of the Israelites (Joshua 24:2, Genesis 31: 30) and in all the nations that had
contact with Israel, except Persia.
Related Scripture:
Numbers 33:52, Deuteronomy 7:5, 29:17. God commanded the destruction of all idols.
Acts 15:29, 17: 24-30 and 1 Corinthians 8: 1-8. Paul denounces idolatry.
Colossians 3: 5, 1 John 5: 21. The Christian must guard against idols of the heart.
1 Corinthians 10: 14 Beloved, flee from images.
(Ibid. p. 235)
Question 1: What does God's Word say about the making of images used?
as objects of worship?
Scripture Reference:
Exodus 20: 4-5. KJV Verse 4. "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
There is only one God. However just as the ancient people worshiped false gods people of today are also influenced by idols. Sometimes it is money, fame, work or pleasure. Idols and sinful images are also seen in the use of pictures depicting the Messiah and the Prophets and Apostles.
Question 2: May images be used simply as aids in worship of the true
God?
Scripture References: John 4:23-24, JB. "True worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth: that is the kind of worshiper the Father wants. God is spirit, and those who worship must worship in spirit and truth." (Those who rely on images as aids to devotion are not worshiping God "in spirit" but they depend on what they can see with their physical eyes).
Question 4: Do worshipers have in mind primarily the person represented by
an image, or are some images viewed as being superior to others?
The attitude of worshipers is an important factor to consider. Why? Because a
key difference between an image and an idol is the use, to which an image is put.
In the mind of the worshiper, does one image of a person have greater value or importance than another image of the same person? If so, it is the image, not the person that the worshiper has primarily in mind.
Why do people make long pilgrimages to worship at certain shrines? Is it not the image itself that is viewed as having miraculous powers?
But if worshipers had primarily in mind the person, not the image, one image would be considered to be just as good as another, would it not?
Question 5. How does God view images that are objects of worship?
Here we see that images are a likeness or idol of worship. However, images are also pictures.
Scripture References: Jeremiah 10: 14-15, Isaiah 44: 13-19, Ezekiel 14: 6, Ezekiel 7: 20.
Question 6: How should we feel about any images that we may formerly have
venerated?
Scripture References: Deuteronomy 7: 25, 26. "You must set fire to all the carved images of their gods.
(While Jehovah's people today are not authorized to destroy images that belong to other people, this command to Israel provides a pattern as to how they should view any images in their possession that they may have venerated.
Compare Acts 19: 19. KJV "Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and the counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver."
Here we see that the evidence of Black Magic was written in books. These books misled the people and supported many superstitious beliefs. When they became penitent of their sinful practices, they proved their sincerity by burning the collection of their evil formulas.
Also, see: 1 John 5: 21, Ezekiel 37: 23.
Question seven: What effect could the use of images in worship have on our
own future?
Idol worship was a major form of religion in Corinth. However, today idolatry takes a different form. We don't put our trust in statues of wood and stone, but in paper money and plastic cards. Some also put trust in picture illustrations of the Christ, Prophets and Apostles. These images become a part of the idol worship. All believers should know that pictures and images of Jesus the Savior and the Great Prophets and Apostles are forbidden.
Meanwhile, there is an argument for the use of these pictures. However, the argument is not based on Biblical Truth but the simple logic of man. Thus these pictures often note a racial or ethnic origin of the persons they illustrate. Therefore those that offer these racial pictures advocate White Supremacy when these characters are revealed as European, White or Caucasian. Also when these images or pictures are revealed as Black they also note Black Supremacy.
The Supremacy of any race is not pleasing to God. Thus White pictures of Jesus, the Prophets and Apostles are not ordained by Jehovah God. Also, Jehovah does not wish for the Biblical record and the historical record to be confused and distorted by using pictures that do not represent true scripture nor the secular historical record.
Also, see: Deuteronomy 4: 25, 26, Malachi 3: 5-6, Revelations 21: 8, Psalms 115: 4-8. _________________ The FreedomJournal does not believe in the Censorship of our enemies and those that do not agree with us.
Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 7:15 pm Post subject: Are images pleasing to God?
The images not pleasing to God are those which display a deity of Lucifer, in other words, any religion with any resemblance to a false god.
In the Catholic church the cross is not an image, it is a reminder. The same can be said about the movie Passion, it is a reminder.
The bible on the other hand is not holy, yet is an image with conflicting reminders that most believers see as holy.
Why is it not holy? it would first be necessary to select which of these images is the correct version. Not one catholic would agree the KJV is holy, nor would any KJV reader consider the Catholic holy.
What is holy is the Hebrew language, for in the James Strong's concordance there are 8674 words listed.
If the number 8674 was years, 8.674 years = 3168 days and in Greek gematria [the alphabet used as numbers] the word Jesus has a value of 888, the world Lord 800 and Christ 1480. Add the three = 3168.
Likewise the atomic weight of hydrogen, Gods creation, has an atomic weight of 1.0080 and x Pi = 3168. or add the width of the moon to the earth 2160 miles + 7920 miles = 10080 x Pi = 31680.
These are holy as they are based on numbers that are measurements of Gods creation.
The King James bible in 1611 was orchestrated by Francis Bacon, he the leading Freemason in England, called together 47 Freemason scholars to construct the King James 1611 bible.
King James himself established all of the Freemason lodges in Scotland, England and he was the king of it. Yet his mother was a catholic, a lady beheaded because she was set up as a traitor to Elizabeth I.
King Chales was his son, a Catholic? Why would the head of Freemasonry and an anti-catholic allow his son to be a catholic?
Well it seems that he was a Protestant via his father not his mother, who was herself on the run from Freemasonry all of her reign of France and Scotland, and abdicated to her son to get these demons off of her back.
When James was nominated king of England, Elizabeth I. was dying and repenting of her order to have Mary beheaded, she did so under the advise of Edward deVeer, his pen name was William Shakespeare.
He had been in the court as was his father, the deVeer family being the Earl of Oxley. These brillain men were catholic, and aware of the Lucifer cult within the new Prodestant movement and all was being taken over when the new bible would be sold for 1 penny per copy, against the will of the Catholic demons in Rome.
So the end result was a demonic influence in Rome pitted against a demonic power in the royal house and parliament of England and Scotland, with France closing in on Rome.
Francis Bacon presented the king with the final work, which the king took and refused to sign until he read it. In the year that followed Edward deVeer having recognised the codes built into it, rewrote it adding his own, and then the King signed it to be released.
It was released and known as the Freemason bible and sits within the central area of every Freemason lodge. Is it then an image of God or Lucifer?
Did Jesus actually instruct anyone to write a bible? No.
He did mention the Old Testament prophets, specifically Isaiah and Daniel. Jesus then had focused our attention on these two books, which he had read himself. In Daniel the thrust of idol worship is narrowed down to the point of this reply.
So does God approve of images, yes, provided they are of Jesus and or himself and Mary, and should Mary be held as Holy? Jesus said she was and made reference to her womb as holy, which I imagine is also his mother.
God does not approve of the bibles either, that is in the general format that denies the obvious truth, which is a struggle between Freemasonry and the Catholic bibles, which has been venerated as holy blessed by Lucifer.
The original KJV reveals truth of this conflict in the numbers and truth of God's intervention by use of the original languages that transcend the English words of dribble used by the masses to control the world and dictate the very verses you have used to build an argument, which is baseless as it is Lucifer's doing.
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Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:10 am Post subject: WHAT IS THE CATHOLIC CHURCH?
My Beloved:
Peace be unto you. Beloved we don't come to offend or insult anyone. However we are not afraid or ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We look to the Truth of the Bible. The Book of Revelation informs us that the Catholic Church is Babylon. A study of the Bible will reveal that Babylon is noted in several ways, a place or country, as an evil toward God's people and the Catholic Church.
We also note that the Bible as we read it notes that God is our Father. As you know all of humankind have a blood father, but God is our Father not someone in the flesh. The Bible also forbids us to bow down to anyone in the flesh. We are also as the Bible reveals not to offer confession to anyone in the flesh. The Priesthood is no longer among us. Jesus Christ is the High Priest not anyone in the flesh.
We strongly suggest that you continue reading the FreedomJournal as we believe you will become further enlightened. Therefore we suggest that you read and study the history of Rome during the 1st Century. Then note the Bible and its history to draw parallels etc.
As you see Christianity coming to Europe you will see specific things. Catholicism although millions follow it is not Bible. So regardless of the zeal and the posture of the millions that embrace the Catholic religion we must be truthful not to man first but to God.
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton, FreedomJournal _________________ The FreedomJournal does not believe in the Censorship of our enemies and those that do not agree with us.
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 6:45 pm Post subject: Authenticity of the bible
When selecting a bible from the shelf of a 'WORD' book store, there is a multitude of bible versions in plain view.
All are tared with the same brush, as it was the Catholic bishops who in 1546 set at rest for ever, what was to be included in the bible as scripture.
Some regard the Catholic church as the habitat of Lucifer, how can Lucifer dictate what is in the holy bible?
There is the Jehovah Witness bible, the Mormon and its Doctrines and Covenants, the New KJV as well as the original 1611, and even this original there are several retranslations. There is the NIV and the living bible, and on an on.
I have been sitting in on Adventist meetings and they are convinced the beast or Babylon of Revelation is Rome and the church, yet if we venture to type into a search engine the words Freemason Bible, the King James bible will be shown as the result.
I have recently purchased two Freemason bibles on eBay, one from the United States and one from Australia. The US version is the same as the Australian with the addition of a forward dealing with Solomon's temple and identical to the KJV.
Solomon received 666 talents of gold each year from the nations of his wives and concubines the Ammonites and Moabites, and as the Freemason's fixate on Solomon's temple, the same 666 talents of gold financed it. Can there be any doubt that the Babylonian Catholic church was indeed devoured by Lucifer by 1546, the women who were burned at the stake for having a black cat, might think so. Was it not the same bible translated by Freemason's then authorised by the Freemason king who also established all of the Freemason lodges in Scotland, England and France, the present day habitation of Lucifer’s demons that control the United States and all of the western world?
Is it remotely possible that this Lucifer cult would be allowed to exist when Jesus returns? If not, then all churches who bandy about the word of God as dictated by Lucifer to the Catholic church and expanded into a multitude of translations via King James, and it into countless arguing churches who are all reading the same bibles, but opposed to each other as demonic churches within the same biblical realm, seems to me to be just what Lucifer was determined to accomplish.
Jesus said that he was leaving, he would be back when the end time of Daniel was fulfilled, and he did not direct anyone to write a bible at all. He also warned that the world was in the hands of the Devil and would remain that way until God made his enemies his footstool.
He also made reference to Isaiah who predicts that the end time king would be Jesus, a man of the genetic line of David, the reincarnate of Jesus.
Could it be remotely possible that the bibles that were translated from the Greek, have been ignoring the original Aramaic. Scholars say that the original New Testament was Greek, and deny that there are any Aramaic in the language of Jesus. Well if one so wishes, the Eastern churches are brimming with original Aramaic and tell a fuller story than what we read in the New Testament in the west. For example.
The stone the builders rejected, the same has become the head f the corner.
In the Aramaic the word corner is pyramid. Can it be that the bible in stone is the Great Pyramid? There are many great minds who say it is so.
Jesus also said that we reincarnate, he said so about John the Baptist as being Elijah, that is after John said he was not, Jesus corrected him. In fact the Aramaic bible make no bones about it, Jesus said we reincarnate and pass through life refining the soul like gold being refined in a furnace. This is why He himself must be reborn of water ‘the womb’ and the spirit of Jesus ‘the soul’ into the most royal man alive today. It’s a matter of genetics.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:01 am Post subject: The Translations of the Bible: Mis-Information and Confusion
FREEDOMJOURNAL ARCHIVES
Editors Note: The translation of the Bible from the original Hebrew and Greek languages is a logical means of communication. The Quran has also been translated from the original Arabic language.
Many Christians note that the King James Version is the best translation of the Bible. All Christians cannot read Hebrew and Greek, nor can all Muslims read Arabic.
Non- Europeans wrote the Quran and the Bible. Also Judaism, Christianity and Islam were established by non-White people.
Peace,
Carl A. Patton, FreedomJournal Updated November 18, 2000.
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THE WORLD AND SATAN IN THE BLACK CHURCH
(Ungodly Blasphemy)
Part 4: The Translations of the Bible: Mis-Information and Confusion
In the name of God, Master of the universe, Ruler of the earth.
The False Prophets, the ignorant and those that seek to cause dissension and Disunity in the Black community often have confused thoughts about the origins of the Bible. For the record the Hebrew people are often confused with the religion Judaism. It is also recorded that Hebrews wrote most of the Bible. The record also shows that the Hebrew people did not originate in Europe. Therefore, we would be remiss if we did not expound on the mis-information about the translations of the Bible and the Hebrew people.
An additional note on the Hebrew people, is recorded by Albert B. Cleage Jr., in his celebrated research, "The Black Messiah."
"The Nation Israel was a mixture of Chaldeans, Egyptians, Midianites, Ethiopians, Kushites, Babylonians and other dark people, all of who were already mixed with the Black people of Central Africa."
Cleage gives us further statements about who are the so-called Jews in the following quotation. Israel mixed with people every where they went. There is also a record of the Prophets writing rules about how God's chosen people should not mix with other people. Cleage further reveals the confusion of who are the Hebrew people:
"Israel was a mixed-blood, non-white nation. What usually confuses you is the fact that the Jews you see today in America are white. Most of them are the descendants of white Europeans and Asiatics who were converted to Judaism about one thousand years ago."
The FreedomJournal has often been confronted with those that oppose Christianity and the Bible. Many of these people note the foolishness of Blacks who have embraced Christianity and the Bible. Thus we hear statements like "King James was a homosexual and he re-wrote the Bible." We also hear that: "The White man has tampered with the Bible and Blacks are worse than fools to follow words written by Devilish White men."
As a student during the 1960s and 70s I first heard the attack on the so-called White Bible and King James However, there is on-going growth in knowledge for the sincere Truth-seeker. As I matured I came to realize that the Black Nationalists told as many lies as the White Christians. For the record no side of the Struggle has been immune from mistakes, lies and falsehoods.
I eventually saw a climax of intellectual maturity in the submission and knowledge of God. Therefore I have ceased making ignorant, shallow and incorrect statements about the White man tampering with the Bible. I do not seek to belittle or insult anyone, but let it be written that those that accept the notion of King James distorting the Bible need to do some research. It is for sure that many statements about the so-called King James Version of the Bible are more lies than truth. Meanwhile hate-mongers, atheists and those who are prejudiced project these statements. Also many of these people are biased and denounce anything allegedly associated with White people.
Originally nearly all of the Old Testament was written in Hebrew; the small remaining portion was written in Aramaic, sometime called Syriac. Aramic was the language spoken by the people and was the language spoken by Jesus during His public ministry. However, the New Testament was written in Greek, the language used in letters and other writings. Since few people can easily read the ancient languages of the Scriptures, many versions and translations of the Bible have been made.
Hebrew is the language of the Old Testament. The manuscripts that have been found are written in square, black letters which resemble the Hebrew of today. There are several factors that cause problems for the translators. (1) Hebrew was written in ancient times without any spaces separating the words. (2) The Hebrew alphabet consisted of twenty-two letters, all of them consonants. Furthermore, in Hebrew there are no capital letters to distinguish proper nouns from common nouns and to mark the beginning of each new sentence. Finally Hebrew is read from right to left, rather than left to right as in English.
Greek was the language of the New Testament. However, the Greek of the New Testament was different from the classical Greek of a few centuries earlier. Greek is like English in that it is read from left to right. Therefore, as Hebrew and Greek were the original languages of the Bible there was a certain and expressed need to translate the Bible into the various languages of the world.
Therefore, we also see different versions of the Bible. Through the centuries the Bible has found its way into languages of the people as Christianity has swept throughout the world. The Septuagint was one of the first translations of the Old Testament. This Greek translation was made before there was a New Testament. The centuries preceding the Christian era saw a wide scattering of the Hebrew people. A large colony of Hebrew people resided in Alexandria, Egypt. Greek was the universal language and Hebrew was little used. Cleage notes that the Hebrews (Jews) that remained in Africa remained Black.
Therefore around the third century B.C. a group of seventy-two scholars, commissioned by the High Priest in Jerusalem translated the Bible into Greek. Septuagint comes from the Latin word seventy, and is commonly abbreviated by using the Roman Numeral LXX.
The Latin translation followed. With the aid of Pope Damascus the scholar Jerome (340?-420) undertook the translation into Latin. The Gospel was carried to Great Britain in the second century, however it was not until the seventh century that Christianity became established. However the first English versions of the entire Bible were the two associated with John Wyclif (1320?-1384), which were translated from the Latin Vulgate.
William Tyndale (1490?-1536) also English became a martyr for his interest in translating the Bible. A renewed interest in Hebrew and Greek made it possible to translate the Bible from its original texts. Also, Gutenberg's invention of the printing press allowed many Bibles to be printed. The Old Testament was printed in 1525 and the New Testament was published in 1535. Meanwhile Miles Coverdale (1488-1568) gets the distinction for being the first to prepare and publish a complete printed Bible in English in 1535.
When Queen Mary came to the throne in 1553 translations were again forbidden and Coverdale was imprisoned. King James I came to the throne of England in 1603. As the secular head of the Anglican Church, James was opposed to the various rivals of Anglicanism in England at the time. In January 1604, the King called a meeting at Hampton Court to discuss religious toleration.
During this conference they noted the need for a new translation of the Bible. Shortly after the Hampton Court Conference the King took steps to begin a new version of the Bible. The work would be done by a large number of English scholars. When completed their work was to be reviewed by the Bishops, The Privy Council, and finally by the King. The translators began their work in 1607 and by 1611 the first edition of the King James Version of the Bible was printed and distributed.
This group effort resulted in a sacred and literary masterpiece, a work that has become the Bible to English-speaking Protestants everywhere and against which all subsequent translations were measured. Contrary to popular beliefs the King James Version was never officially authorized by the King, but won its place in Christendom on its own merits.
The translation is a scholarly work. The translations also were not dependent upon the Latin Vulgate alone for the text; both Hebrew Old Testament and Greek New Testament manuscripts were used.
Cont. Part 5: Old Con Games, New Con Games
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:13 am Post subject: King James was a Freemason.
King James - The Founder of Freemason Lodges
The KJV - A Freemason Bible
The history of King James' role in the formation of Freemasonry is mandatory reading in the Hiram Key book of Masonic scrolls attempting to link Christ with the Pharaohs.
Freemasonry, in its present form, came into being through the Lodge system, established under the auspices of King James VI of Scotland, (later King James I of England), the only son of Roman Catholic Mary Queen of Scots. At the age of 37, two years after becoming a Mason, James became the first Stuart king of England and immediately began to persecute the Puritans, rejecting their petition to reform the Church of England along biblical lines.
James was initiated into Freemasonry, into the Lodge of Scoon and Perth in 1601, at the age of 35. Fifteen years after taking active control of Scotland and five years before becoming English monarch, he ordered that the Masonic structure be given leadership and organisation. He made a senior Mason, named William Schaw, his General Warden of the Craft, and instructed Schaw to revamp the entire structure of Freemasonry into what it became today. Schaw commenced this project on 28th December 1598, on the orders of James.
To this day, the 1611 edition of the King James Bible remains the Freemason Bible and is the edition conventionally used in secret Masonic temple rituals.
Moriel does not, however believe that the Masonic association with the KJV or the Freemasonry of King James, founder of the Masonic Lodge system, detracts from the validity of this outdated but valid translation of the Bible. Nonetheless, it is the Freemason Bible and has been from its inception, commissioned and authorised by the same Freemason King who commissioned and authorised the Masonic Lodge structure. We can only speculate how many members of the KJV Only cult are in fact Freemasons.
(Moriel thanks Mrs Sara Robinson for providing excerpts of The Hiram Key)
The exposition you see in that link coincides with the judgment of what Scripture calls the "glorious ones" and thus we should not reject it unless a modern prophet with power says otherwise. If you don't know what I mean, please consider this:
Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:34 am Post subject: Forensic science and Aramaic Gospel
The evidence suggest that if you are of the opinion that every word of the bible is God's word, then there are thousands of scholars who will show why the new testament was written the re-written and there are additions, subtractions, notes and words rubbed out and the theme changed to make it fit as a nice rounded end result. In fact the oldest Greek is a copy of a copy and each evolved.
Of the 14 letters of Paul, seven have been clearly demonstrated to be of a literary nature that is in the hand of men who can be identified by their style and level of education, and even the type of Greek, classical or otherwise common, as to separate them into many localities of birth and decades and scores of years apart.
To then draw upon the Catholic bible as being actually what Paul said, let alone the motive to sway the masses with the diversions of what Jesus said, is an exercise in childish day dreaming.
The New Testament is not the word of God, it is the word of Jesus manipulated to use as a weapon of mass spiritual destruction. What we can deduce from the gospels, is a shadow of what was removed to draw the faithful away from what Jesus said, and he said plenty that would shock and dismay the western churches if and when it arrives on the TV screen. Reincarnation, the Great pyramid, Mother and Father as God to name a few points.
I found it an interesting notion that no person who was alive at the time of Jesus, who knew Jesus and spoke Aramaic, actually did not bothered to write down one single word the son of God uttered.
It is suggested the reason is that people were illiterate and memorised what he said. Hogwash.
To assume that his words were only written down in Greek 100 or so years later, to me defies imagination.
Digging deeper I found that in the Eastern writings there are scores of Aramaic which mirror the Gospels in almost every detail. The slight difference suggests that the Aramaic was written first and the Greek copies of the originals.
Here is a sample, one word is different from the Greek, but what a difference it makes. It is Lection 68 verse 6 from the original Aramaic.
6. Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The Stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the Pyramid? this is the Lord’s doing and it is marvellous in our eyes?
PYRAMID?
Isaiah was mentioned by Jesus many times, and we know the Isaiah book was found intact in the Dead Sea Scrolls. The verse Isaiah 19:19 and 19:20 have a Hebrew word value or gematria of the same number as is the height of the Great Pyramid.
This is a reference to the pillar to the Lord in the midst of Egypt.
This is from Lection 70. Here Jesus is speaking about the church today, then he mentions a Pontiff and priest who will be king forever. Forever is the promise to us all, everlasting life meaning flesh and blood. Jesus appears to be talking about himself being nailed to the cross, which he knew was his destiny being in Isaiah, and in the end when the Kingdom will be established he will be Pontiff, King and Priest. He mentions that with him will be those ‘of old’ suggesting reincarnation.
11. And Iesus answered, As I shall be nailed to the cross, so also shall my Church in those days, for she is my Bride and one with me. But the day shall come when this darkness shall pass away, and true Light shall shine.
12. And one shall sit on my throne, who shall be a Man of Truth and Goodness and Power, and he shall be filled with love and wisdom beyond all others, and shall rule my Church by a fourfold twelve and by two and seventy as of old, and that only which is true shall he teach.
13. And my Church shall be filled with Light, and give Light unto all nations of the earth, and there shall be one Pontiff sitting on his throne as a King and a Priest.
14. And my Spirit shall be upon him and his throne shall endure and not be shaken, for it shall be founded on love and truth and equity, and light shall come to it, and go forth from it, to all the nations of the earth, and the Truth shall make them free.
Reincarnation is the general theme of the 96 Lections.
In the 95th Lection, Jesus has risen from the tomb and speakes a message to the witnesses.
3. I have set you as the light of the world, and as a city that cannot be hid. But the time cometh when darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people, and the enemies of truth and righteousness shall rule in my Name, and set up a kingdom of this world, and oppress the peoples, and cause the enemy to blaspheme, putting for my doctrines the opinions of men, and teaching in my Name that which I have not taught, and darkening much that I have taught by their traditions.
4. But be of good cheer, for the time will also come when the truth they have hidden shall be manifested, and the light shall shine, and the darkness shall pass away, and the true kingdom shall be established which shall be in the world, but not of it, and the Word of righteousness and love shall go forth from the Centre, even the holy city of Mount Zion, and the Mount which is in the land of Egypt shall be known as an altar of witness unto the Lord.
It is a simple matter for a linguist to determine if the nom number of the above is the same as the Gospels quoting Jesus. They are identical.
If it were a murder trial and the same evidence was against you, you would certainly be found guilty.
I feel that with the sudden surge of technology and how countless men and women can contribute to the world wide open knowledge via the Internet, indeed what Jesus said is truth in any language, the truth shall set you free.
It appears that the denial of the Aramaic gospel is the very truth of reincarnation and Jesus will return to fulfil the remainder of Isaiah 22:22, being the key of the house of David as being some genetic key the end time King must demonstrate to prove absolutely he is the Lord, back with a new name, see Revelation 14:6 and 19:12.
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 10:46 pm Post subject: HAS THE WORLD RECOVERED FROM THE DARK AGES?
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HAS THE WORLD RECOVERED FROM THE DARK AGES?
In the name of Jehovah God, Master of the universe, Ruler of the earth.
Thanks be to God who is our Father and the Father of all of humankind. We also give tribute to our Savior and the Holy Spirit. We are in the midst of a period of Dark and Light but we still have Joy.
As our mind goes back in time, we see Darkness upon the world and its people. This Darkness came about due to the disobedience of the people of God. Thus, the earth and its people were cast into Darkness when the Bible was not seen. However, what preceded this wretched period when many did not know and did not see God?
The crucifixion of Christ brought great upheavals upon the world. Although many do not directly record that many things regarding the wrath of God descended upon the earth and its people due to the death of Christ. Here we see the wrath of God not for a deed that had been ordained but the evil minds that carried out this deed of death.
Hence the Old Testament Prophet of Daniel predicted the coming destruction of Jerusalem in the Jewish War with the Romans. Also, Jesus the Christ noted this prediction in Matthew 24. So what soon followed the destruction of Jerusalem and the Temple is what history calls the Dark Ages.
The period of Darkness lasted more than 1240 years (The early part of the Middle Ages, from the 400's A.D. to the 1000's A.D.). However are we are still in a state of Darkness where many do not see the Light. The record shows that a man named Martin Luther came to reform the Church that had descended (down) to idols and the flesh and man as god. Martin Luther began his Reformation in 1517 with the publication of the "Ninety-five Theses" attacking the sale of
Indulgences. However this Reformation did little for Catholicism as it took hold and spread throughout the world carrying a banner of Darkness. But how had the Christian Church of Jesus Christ evolved to Catholicism and man as gods?
Although in hiding the true Church of Christ still stood. It had survived the initial defilement when Christianity spread to Rome and European and it would survive the birth of the various denominational Churches that resulted from the unsuccessful Reformation Movement.
Meanwhile the Catholic Church and the tenets of Babylon stayed intact; however the spread of additional false doctrines did occur. The Protestant Movement took hold and a multitude of denominations arose. Thus many doctrines came upon man's lips and breath and many took these to heart. Thus a belief in man and things and not God became/is vogue. Here is another period of Darkness
and Light. What is the Dawn is that where the world sits?
It is written that once the Bible was taken from the people the Great Satan who resides in Babylon came up. However the Word was on the lips of many but they grew weary and forgot God. As the wind of change sought to come, it did not. However, the Bible was again released to humankind. But man does not read nor study the Bible.
In this set of dire circumstances we see many False Prophets coming with a smooth tongue and doctrines that are pleasing to lazy ears. However, we have been Fore-warned. Meanwhile the people know little of the Fore-warning because they did not/do not read. Thus, they are lost. Has the Dawn come? Are the people still in Darkness? Are the people at the point right before the
Light? Who can distinguish Dankness from the Light?
We bear witness that the days of life are at the brink of coming to a close for many. But the Darkness prevails because the Sacred Text is only used as window dressing and not for a map to Salvation. Does Dankness breed Light? Or does the Light bring one out of Darkness?
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton writing for the FreedomJournal May 28, 2002 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. _________________ The FreedomJournal does not believe in the Censorship of our enemies and those that do not agree with us.
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:38 am Post subject: Babylon Catholic or non catholic.
In 1546 the council of Trent finally set the New Testament in stone, from that point on no more would the church dispute what was to be in the bible.
The non catholic churches seem to agree that the Catholic church is the end time Babylon, as predicted by the book of Revelation, yet it was the same Babylon church that included the book of Revelation, accusing itself, and it was this very book of Revelation that caused the argument as if it should be included in the 27 New Testament books. In fact it was so controversial that this was the reason for the council meeting in 1546.
As the general non catholic churches agree that the Catholic church is Babylon, by inclusion so is Peter as he represents the church, he being the founder, therefore has Jesus denounced Peter by including the book of Revelation and proved Jesus wrong.
Considering the KJV was not around at the time, why would King James follow the decress of the church of 1546 and add what ever it wished?
Was it not Jesus who said it was Peter the Rock on which He would build his church? Is this not the church in Rome?
Has then the non catholic churches, by pointing at the church of Peter as Babylon, proven Jesus wrong? Is Jesus going to destroy Peter's church or Babylon?
In the following books of the bible, mention is made of the everlasting Gospel.
What is the end time everlasting gospel?
Rev 14:6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Rev 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
I suspect that this mark can not be the catholic church as Jesus said he would build on it, Peter.
We know that Pope John Paul was elected on October 14th 1978 and that the sunlight for Rome on that date was 666 minutes duration. We also have the account of Solomon who received 666 talents of gold per year from his wives and concubines Moabite and Ammonite nations or homelands.
We know that the KJV is the Freemason bible and we know that it is dedicated to Solomon's temple. We also know that the god of Freemasonry is Lucifer. We also know that Pope John Paul I. was murdered because he discovered the infiltration of Freemasonry, and he had a list of 100 bishops who were named and also that the Mafia and CIA had used the Vatican bank to launder billions of dollars and billions in counterfeit bonds.
Could it be that the mark of the beast is the KJV held in the right hand or read with the mind, as in the forehead, it is after all part of the Satanic Freemason cult approved by Lucifer, used in all Masonic lodges and all courts of law, where one is required to swear an oath in defiance to the command of Jesus who said to simply say yea or nay.
Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
I attended the funeral of a 33rd degree Freemason, the husband of my wife’s friend. In the chapel, the cross was covered over and all references to Jesus removed. The speaker, the member of his lodge, made references to Solomon and not one word was mentioned of Jesus Christ.
Is it not logical that in the secret passages of all churches and in the catholic church as well, that evil Freemasonry is within it, causing men to point the finger, when the reality is that when Jesus is finally recognised and takes over the world government, the first to be removed will be the Zionist money at the top, then Freemasonry and leave a clean slate of Jesus loving men and women, who will assist Jesus in reforming the world, removing the damage done by all churches and let logic and love prevail.
Jesus warned all to beware of loosing their crown, for give all, even Lucifer, for Lucifer gains its power by division, stirring hate and pointing the finger at this or that.
Best to admit that we are all sinners, no man can judge another and no man has the wisdom to say who is Babylon and who is not. By pointing at the Catholic Church, one is pointing a finger at billions of people who love Jesus via what they have been educated within.
A person who believes in capitol punishment, would they wield the sword to decapitate their own son, daughter, mother, father, sister or brother.
No, I would forgive them. Jesus said so, and likewise I will forgive all churches.
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Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:07 am Post subject: WHERE IS THE REMNANT?
THERE IS A REMNANT AMONG THE MULTITUDES THIS INCLUDES CATHOLICS.
Greetings Brethren:
This is the first article in our new series on “Where Is The Remnant?” We are grateful to those that have found peace and comfort in these words taken from God. We also pray that those among the true Church will answer the call of responsibility. Responsibility to Truth is Godly. If we keep God first and stay in prayer we can see these things. We will also be able to see Jesus without a picture.
Peace and Love,
Carl Patton, FreedomJournal June 18, 2003 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
INTRODUCTION:
WHERE IS THE REMNANT?
IN THE NAME OF GOD MASTER OF THE UNIVERSE, RULER OF THE EARTH
Brethren we are grateful to God our Father and the Father of humankind. We also duly give thanks to God for our Savior Lord Jesus Christ and for the Holy Spirit that is our comforter in times of joy and trouble.
“There was once a man called to God in a Baptist Church. As he grew in the Spirit of Truth he saw great contradictions in the Inspired Doctrine noted in the Holy Book. He was silenced (Censored and Banned just like Psyche Publishing: FreedomJournal).
Meanwhile some even chased him out of the Church. He also left on his own accord as many aspects of the world were practiced and he couldn’t find a Godly man or woman.
He did, still search. But to no avail. He finally stayed home and studied his Book and prayed for there he found comfort. After seeing the Light of the Church of Christ as established and ordained by God and the Savior Lord Jesus Christ he found contentment, Peace and Joy. But he looked back.
When he looked back he saw some that were sincerely striving to be Christians although blind. He also saw those now that stay (ed) with the Book and were sound in Doctrine. Does the Remnant fall among both?”
The Sojourn for Truth is often sad and lonely. However many things need to be seen before the record can be written. To search for Truth in all the wrong places offers a needed analysis of the wrong places.
We will begin our series by revealing a detailed definition of Remnant. We note that there is a clear distinction between Remnant as noted in the Old Testament and our New Testament concept of this word.
However in order to clearly understand this word and how it is applied in the present time we must deal with its historical development. Remnant as a central issue in this series relates to Judgment and Salvation.
The only Church home among the truly righteous is found among the established Church of Jesus Christ. We pray that those that wander like the man noted above will come home. There can be no salvation among those that claim an untruthful report of the inspired Word of God.
We have seen some that are sincere however they are responsible for their own behavior. You cannot see the Light if you attend Church for the wrong reasons. The Bible is the road map to eternity. Just like any other map if you don’t follow it you will become lost.
Many are lost but some want to be found. Will the righteous and unrighteous realize the role of the Remnant? Who is this Remnant?
Cont. Part 2: Defining Remnant
Peace and Love, Carl Patton writing for the FreedomJournal May 30, 2003 in the year of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. _________________ The FreedomJournal does not believe in the Censorship of our enemies and those that do not agree with us.
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