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Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:20 am Post subject: The Leadership of Babylon – Do Not Receive These Spirits!
Formally, the leadership of Babylon is composed of the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet (Rev 16:19). John saw the spirits that animate them. “And I saw coming out of the mouth of the dragon and out of the mouth of the beast and out of the mouth of the false prophet, three unclean spirits like frogs; for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the whole world, to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty.” Revelation 16:13,14.
I think it’s reasonable to believe that Babylon is comprised of all persons who embrace the sentiment of the three demons’ messages. True Christians preach the three angels’ messages (Revelation 14:6-12). It’s impossible to be confused as to which message is which. A basic outline of the messages is presented here:
I see many false Christians embracing the demons’ messages and not the angel messages! Do you see this too or do you reject my warning because you believe that the church of the world is innocent and delightful and that all Christians are righteous?
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Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2004 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: The Leadership of Babylon – Do Not Receive These Spirits
Eugene Shubert wrote:
I see many false Christians embracing the demons’ messages and not the angel messages! Do you see this too or do you reject my warning because you believe that the church of the world is innocent and delightful and that all Christians are righteous?
Discernment is very important in these last days if we are not to be led astray. But I think God reserves the right to judge who are true Christians and who aren't? Is it safe to assume that those who belong to the system of Babylon are false Christians when the angels message is "come out of her my people"?
Eugene Shubert wrote:
Formally, the leadership of Babylon is composed of the Dragon, Beast and False Prophet (Rev 16:19).
The Dragon is an esoteric and surreptitious power related to Spiritualism and the occult. Or otherwise, symbollically Satan. The Beast is the Papacy and the False Prophet is America (or the vehicle that will pass the National Sunday Law). _________________ And not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. Rom 8:23.
I think God reserves the right to judge who are true Christians and who aren't?
But Saul, who was also known as Paul, filled with the Holy Spirit, fixed his gaze on him, and said, "You who are full of all deceit and fraud, you son of the devil, you enemy of all righteousness, will you not cease to make crooked the straight ways of the Lord?" Acts 13:9-10.
Have you ever thought about 1 Timothy 1:19-20, 1 Corinthians 5 and Jude 10-16?
wandering wrote:
Is it safe to assume that those who belong to the system of Babylon are false Christians when the angels message is "come out of her my people"?
The heavenly proclamation, "come out of her my people" (Revelation 18:4), is a plea to escape God's wrath by disassociating from those who embrace the three demons' messages. For anyone to not disassociate himself or herself from Babylon invites God's wrath.
wandering wrote:
The Dragon is an esoteric and surreptitious power related to Spiritualism and the occult. Or otherwise, symbolically Satan. The Beast is the Papacy and the False Prophet is America (or the vehicle that will pass the National Sunday Law).
My guess is that you're interpreting Scripture from this statement by Ellen G. White:
"The Protestants of the United States will be foremost in stretching their hands across the gulf to grasp the hand of spiritualism; they will reach over the abyss to clasp hands with the Roman power; and under the influence of this threefold union, this country will follow in the steps of Rome in trampling on the rights of conscience." The Great Controversy, p. 588.
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