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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 8:34 pm Post subject: Is it carnal to be a follower of Paul? |
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Is it carnal to be a follower of Paul and make his words as important as Jesus’ words?
2PT 1:21 for prophecy never came by the will of man, but holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
Most of the writers of the New Testament were not apostles who were with Jesus other than John, and Peter and were not present in the events they were writing about! It's true that Jesus told Apostle John what to write and he told us this in the book of Revelation. But Apostle Paul never told us that what he had written he was told by Jesus to write or he was moved by the Holy Spirit to write things blindly without understanding? As a matter of fact Apostle Paul understood everything that he wrote about and he wrote about specific problems with specific remedies which were not to be applied universally!
Now the four gospels are accurate because they have other witnesses and say the same things. But there are very few witnesses to the writings of Apostle Paul and many scholars don't believe that Apostle Paul wrote all the epistles that he is supposed to have written. Before you classify me as a heretic, don't forget you are the liar who is twisting scriptures such as stated above, not me?
Evangelicals and Bereans don’t have a intelligent basis to defend their indefensible position that every comma, dot and word written by Apostle Paul in the New Testament is the Word of God and was inspired by God and not by Apostle Paul. There is quite a difference! And then they reject 1 Corinthians 12& 14 as not applicable today and not longer part of valid scripture. How foolish can you be and still breathe?
Jesus never said He would go away and send back the Greek Version of the New Testament and Apostle Paul, and Pastors or preachers who would lead and guide us into all truth? Rather He stated John 16:12 "I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 16:13 "However, when He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come. 16:14 "He will glorify Me, for He will take of what is Mine and declare it to you. 16:15 "All things that the Father has are Mine. Therefore I said that He will take of Mine and declare it to you.
THE HOLY SPIRIT ALONE NOT MAN NOR APOSTLE PAUL IS QUALIFIED TO INTERPRET SCRIPTURES. Those who think and say that Apostle Paul is special and so are his words are carnal and unscriptural based even on Apostle Paul's words:
1 Corinthians 1:12 Now I say this, that each of you says, "I am of Paul," or "I am of Apollos," or "I am of Cephas," or "I am of Christ." 1:13 Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?
3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak to you as to spiritual people but as to carnal, as to babes in Christ. 3:2 I fed you with milk and not with solid food; for until now you were not able to receive it, and even now you are still not able; 3:3 for you are still carnal. For where there are envy, strife, and divisions among you, are you not carnal and behaving like mere men? 3:4 For when one says, "I am of Paul," and another, "I am of Apollos," are you not carnal? 3:5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 3:6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. 3:7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.
3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness"; 3:20 and again, "The LORD knows the thoughts of the wise, that they are futile." 3:21 Therefore let no one boast in men. For all things are yours: 3:22 whether Paul or Apollos or Cephas, or the world or life or death, or things present or things to come-all are yours. 3:23 And you are Christ's, and Christ is God's.
To twist Paul's word and ideas and to say it's scripture is a lie from the pits of hell because it's a Logos word, not a Rhema word and we are to live only by the Rhema word, .every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.' " The Logos word is yesterday's manna and cannot be applicable for a specific need or situation while the Rhema word can because it's given and made real by the Holy Spirit who is the other Christ, the Helper, the Guide, the Spirit of Truth, and all that Christ was to His disciples.
Men are saved not based on Paul's words but on the word of Jesus who told all:
Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 7:22 "Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?' 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!' 7:24 "Therefore whoever hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, I will liken him to a wise man who built his house on the rock: 7:25 "and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it did not fall, for it was founded on the rock. 7:26 "But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does not do them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand: 7:27 "and the rain descended, the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house; and it fell. And great was its fall." |
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