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Eugene Shubert
the new William Miller

Joined: 06 Apr 2002
Posts: 1081
Location: Richardson Texas

Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2002 2:53 pm Post subject: My critics at VOAF

From: Eugene Shubert
To: Ron Lambert
Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: "In what sense are you likening yourself to William Miller?"

Ron,

Thank you for understanding me correctly. One reason I started my own bulletin board is because it is unbearable for me as I see so much "dirt and shavings and sand and all manner of rubbish" allowed in good threads on all the other forums. How can you stand it? I become vexed in my physical soul.

A Christian forum should allow people to explain their positions without constant interruption. My board ensures both safety and freedom of speech. Detractors have the right to criticize me on my board, but not to interrupt. On my bulletin board, pro and con, truth and error, right and wrong, have their own forum.

What has been written against me at VOAF is ridiculous. The whole lot of my critics haven't an intelligent thought between them. I rather answer your questions on my board.

Sincerely,

Eugene Shubert

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I have not examined Eugene's interpretive material, but I must ask why the quick negative reactions? Healthy caution is one thing, but reflexive dissing is not healthy.

If some of you are reacting to what you might consider to be doctrinal errors that you believe Eugene has espoused in the past, you might do well to remember that Ellen G. White was a Sunday-keeping pork eater when she received her first visions. And the vision of Daniel 2 was first given to a blood-thirsty, pagan monarch, whom the Lord saw had potential to be converted.

Let us remember to heed 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22: "Do not quench the Spirit; do not despise prophetic utterances. But examine everything carefully; hold fast to that which is good; abstain from every form of evil." (NASB)

The only definite prophetic symbol Eugene mentioned was the white horse in his vision. He said it represented an angel, and it represented the gospel. In Song of Solomon 1:9 the speaker that apparently represents the Lord declares: "I have compared you, my love, To my filly among Pharaoh's chariots." (NKJV) Those who regard the Song of Solomon as a prophetic depicting of the history of the Lord's courtship of His people, believe that the one addressed here, who is likened to a filly (female horse) represents the church. This also seems to be the way the prophetic symbol of a white horse is used in Revelation 6:2, where it says that one who is given a crown rides this white horse. (My conclusion is that this must mean the church at the time that Christ officially receives His crown in the Judgment, which would be the same time that the church receives the Latter Rain; others in the past have taken this as a reference to the apostolic era, but that is not when Christ receives His crown.) In Revelation 19:11 the symbol of a white horse is again used, and this time the Lord is explicitly said to be riding it, when He "judges and wages war." Again, I conclude that this must be the church during the judgment and final conflict.

However, it is possible also that a horse could represent an angelic agency that serves the Lord in ministering to those on earth who are heirs of salvation. Angels and stars are prophetic symbols, that depending on context can represent literal angels or movements or leaders or prominent teachers within the church to proclaim a Heaven-sent message.

The business of angels of God and of the church is always to proclaim "the everlasting gospel" (Revelation 14:6).

I can't comment on the other things in Eugene's vision, but the symbolic use of a horse is not too far afield.

Eugene, in what sense are you likening yourself to William Miller? Or did I understand you right?

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