The spirit of Wayne Bent

hanifa · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:26 am Post subject: given over

I find a spirit governing this forum that is not of the same spirit that I am of. I am requesting that you remove me from your database.

Eugene Shubert · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:36 pm Post subject: How do you plead?

The worshipful adoration of Wayne Bent as the Second Coming of Christ is a criminal act on this forum. To simply expunge the record of a crime of this magnitude would be a crime all by itself. The archangel Michael of Scripture is not Wayne Bent of New Mexico. What testimony could you give on your own behalf that you repent of this blasphemy or that you never even believed it?

hanifa · Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 6:18 pm Post subject: eternal consequences

Mr. Schubert

If I worshipped a man, I would be like you, accusing without knowledge.

Michael is a Spirit but any spirit must have a container, a vessel, a human body, to inhabit in order to manifest itself. Father chose the body of Wayne Bent as the firstfruit and then, to be admired in all His saints. Michael is not Wayne Bent, this is true. Wayne Bent died when the spirit of Michael was breathed into that old man's body. I am here as a living witness to the coming of Messiah in the flesh of the man I had known for nearly 15 years prior.

Your question is impossible to answer for I have nothing to repent of, neither am I blaspheming. I have believed the words of my Father whether they have come out of this man's mouth or in any way that He choses to speak them to me. I recognize my Father's voice no matter what vessel it comes out of.

"The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God." John 10:33

This was the accusation against Messiah when He came the first time. A definition of the word "blasphemy", according to Strong's concordance is, "evil speaking, especially against God, railing, impious against God". Where is the "evil speaking" of God that you accuse of? Does not the scripture say:

"For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you." Matthew 10:20

"But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you.......But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you." Romans 8:9 & 11

"Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?" 1Corinthians 3:16

Don't those scriptures say that God's spirit dwells in His people? That refers to Wayne Bent, me and any others who believe Him. Would it not then be blasphemy (evil speaking of God) to deny His own words?

You accuse me of a crime. If anything is criminal in the eyes of heaven surely denying Father's word is.

It was not up to me to say how Father would reveal the coming of His Son again in human flesh. All I knew was that He promised He would come and He said to keep watch. Any truehearted believer who has the spirit of the living God will recognize Him, even if He did come in a way that one was not expecting. What Michael has done is to marry us to Father in just the same way as He is. ONE in mind, soul and spirit. We are His body and He is our Soul.

Dzien Dobry · Seventh-day Adventist Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 71

You say that Jesus Christ lives in New Mexico and is visiting the earth as an animated corpse.

It must take a lot of imagined self-righteousness to believe that the Bible is totally wrong and to think that the Second Coming of Christ has already happened.

hanifa · Posted: Sun Feb 29, 2004 4:02 am Post subject: One

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, He doeth the works.

Dzien Dobry · Seventh-day Adventist Joined: 26 May 2002 Posts: 71

I believe that your father and the spirit within you is Satan. What I don't believe is your reinterpretation of the Second Coming, warped and twisted to sound like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

Marrow · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:03 am Post subject: All Is Well

Father has impressed upon me the need to offer a few words here:

Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another. Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.

Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him. Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren. But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him. For if our heart condemn us, God is greater than our heart, and knoweth all things.

Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God. And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. 1 John 3

His Word alone is enough for me.

Amanah · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:

I have been called to this court as a witness by my Father in heaven to the truth of what is being done here. Below is the truth, the whole truth, as given me by Him:

You blind guides, who strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. Woe unto you, hypocrites! for you try to make your experience look good but within you are full of extortion and excess. You blind hypocrites, cleanse first your own internal experience, that the outside of you may be clean also. Woe unto you, hypocrites! for you are like a whited sepulchre, which may appear in your own eyes as beautiful outwardly, but within are full of dead men’s bones, and all uncleanness. Even so you also outwardly appear righteous to a few men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity. Woe unto you, hypocrites! Because you say, “You are liars and deceived by this false Christ" and yet it is true He has appeared (being glorified in His saints) and once again you crucify Him. Wherefore you are witnesses unto yourselves, that you are the children of them which killed the Christ not once but twice. Fill up then the measure of your fathers. You serpents, you generation of vipers, how can you escape the damnation of hell?

Wherefore, behold, I send unto you witnesses and some of them you have put on trial in your court, and you persecute them from day to day: I tell you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

You professed followers of Christ, you that put on trial His messengers, and stone them which are sent unto you, how often would He have gathered you together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and you will not! Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
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Marrow · Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 8:30 pm Post subject: Thank You

Dear Mr. Shubert

Thank you for your recent decision to identify me as “belongs to a cult”. This classification is sure to inspire the ire of your brethren, as that seems to be your purpose. Besides identifying me for who I am, it also helps to identify you for whom you are.

It is not at all important to me how you see me. It should, however, be important to everyone how it is that those in apostate christianity see one who is a vessel of Christ’s. I use the term “apostate” here to describe individuals, like you, who stray from the Truth of the Testimony of Christ, whether they realise it or not (please refer to 1 John 3, for further clarification of that).

That being said, it is clear to those of this forum that your opinion of those who you see as “belongs to a cult” is lowly and despicable, for you relegate them to your worldly court room, jail, hell, and bottomless pit. Please take this opportunity now to clarify the cult to which it is that these belong: Christ’s. Perhaps you could be so kind as to correct that little oversight on your part. While you are at it, you could also take this opportunity to update the little words that describe who you are under your name to be a little more accurate, too.

My only post up to this date, besides this one, has been to quote Scripture (1 John 3), as that was what Father put upon me to do, in relation to your judgement of Hanifa. Now, this has made me to wonder as to how it is that you should come to the conclusion that you did. Perhaps you went to my website, and saw that it points to Messiah. If that is the case, and you did not judge me of the quotation, then you probably have come to this judgement, as you seem to do in all things, by way of your own self-righteousness. It really matters not, though, whatever reasoning you used to come to your conclusion, for either way, it is evident that you do not see Him, for if you did, you would have a concordant heart with Him.

You now shall probably use these words to further your purposes, to modify them, or to delete them, as you have done with the words of the other souls that do not speak to the glory of your personal agenda. That is your prerogative, for this is your forum, after all. The words of the Bride of Christ quite naturally do not sit well with you here. You are certainly not the first to experience this discomfort. This is understandable.

Good day.

Eugene Shubert · Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: ghastly

Dear Dzien Dobry,

I only vaguely remember the Invasion of the Body Snatchers from my childhood. It was an eerie movie for me then but I believe that this group is more frightening.

I never could have imagined in my wildest nightmare that a weird New Mexico cult would one day explain the Biblical descriptions of the Second Coming in terms of body snatching.

Persons who are so obviously detached from reality, who preach invasion, and avoid answering challenges by continually going round in a hypnotic loop of irrelevancies and thoughtless copy and paste are truly like the mindless zombies of old horror films. Invasion indeed! Thanks for making that insightful comparison.

hanifa

Mr. Schubert

Would you now honor my request to be removed from your database.

Eugene Shubert

hanifa,

The answer is posted here. Also, would you elaborate on the strength of your invasion force, the body abduction rate and the ultimate goal of your alien invasion? If I put it in another way, is it only Wayne Bent who is an animated corpse?

Solomon · babble buster Joined: 12 Feb 2004 Posts: 28

"Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."

This is the best testimony given that proves Wayne Bent (Michael) is not Christ. For Wayne Bent committed adultery with the wives of two men there in their church. He has transgressed the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. In Christ there is no sin. Whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

When I first joined the church there in 1989 the Lord told me the one sin that Wayne was in danger of committing was the sin of Moses, taking glory to himself that belonged only to God; and as always, everything the Lord tells to me, comes true. I will probably be blasted for writing these things, but it brings to mind something I have read in scriptures:

"Mat 14:3 For Herod had laid hold on John, and bound him, and put [him] in prison for Herodias' sake, his brother Philip's wife.
Mat 14:4 For John said unto him, It is not lawful for thee to have her."

This is all I have said: That it is not lawful for Wayne to take his brothers wives. The very act of doing so lays bare that Wayne Bent is not what he or these people claim that he is. As Eugene Shubert pointed out, they avoid answering the challenges I brought forth, and even after they have avoided these questions, they continue to present themselves in the best of light while at the same time casting accusations at anyone who will not receive this false christ of theirs even though we are warned not to receive him, even by the very words of Jesus Christ. They use the holy scriptures to accuse "us" of being hypocrites, the very scriptures they have to deny in their proclamation of Wayne as Christ. They have to avoid the questions I brought up because they have no scriptural basis upon which to stand. They believe Wayne is Christ through blind faith only (I know I was there when he proclaimed himself Christ and later pitch aside the Bible saying it was not the word of God) and therefore expect the rest of us to do so as well, even though the scriptures tells us to put everything to the test.

Yet I have to admit, that so much of what they present is the truth concerning Jesus that I can say, "Do as they say -concerning the true Christ of God, Jesus- but not as they do -twisting the truth to make it apply to some sinful, adulterous man like Wayne Bent."

I love these people. I have many happy memories of our times together, and it truly saddens me that Jesus was not good enough for them.
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Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.

Marrow · Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:01 pm Post subject: Nothing Has Changed

Truly, the soul is the painter of the picture it sees.

Nothing has changed. Those people who were confounded by the behavior of Jesus held the same spirit that you, and all like-minded souls, have. Nothing could convince the vast majority of they that were witness to Him when He appeared the first time that He was, indeed, Christ.

Jesus did not fit the mental picture they had of Messiah, nor did He satisfy their egocentric needs, or their prejudiced and bigoted opinions. He offended them, this parable speaking, synagogue disrupting, and homeless drifter, who associated with all of the wrong kinds of people.

And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. (Luke 7:23)

So it is today the very same way, and now the vast majority of “Christians” crucify Him again, as it were.

Nothing I can do or say will change your heart on this matter. It is plain that we are all sealed. The Parable of the Land speaks to those souls who have a concordant spirit with Christ. To everyone else, it speaks an unknown language, is seen only as folly, or heresy, is sin, or is altogether unfathomable. This is just as it was 2000 years ago.

We now have the advantage of being able to climb onto the shoulders of those who came before to look back on all of history. We also have the advantage of being able to communicate with others around the world in an instant. And we have the advantages of being well fed, educated, housed, immunized from disease, abundantly blessed and nourished in the Word of God, and yet, even with all this, it all still boils down to which spirit it is that inhabits us. The beast is never satisfied. The beast ridicules and says; “Body Snatchers!”

Solomon, you were there early on with these folks that see Messiah, and yet you, as well as some others, found only reason to doubt and rail against Him. On the other hand, there are those such as me who were not aware of this church until just a few years ago, and yet, during the time prior to discovering Him, I KNEW He was here on earth, somewhere. It was for me an important matter of finding Him, and Father’s unction to my soul led me to Him. Such is the power of the Spirit, that nothing may stand in the way of His Will. It all proves, once and for all, the point of His Son.

The posts upon these pages speak to the issue well. Here are the two spirits. Here, some see Christ as Who He Is, and some see Christ as they want Him to be.

Father has provided the necessary stumbling blocks. Only those who have the Faith necessary to overcome the obstacles before them will do so.

Praise Father.

All IS well.