A Reform-minded Seventh-day Adventist forum   In our aim to exalt everything important, first and foremost, we seek to promote a clear understanding of Daniel, Revelation, the three angels' messages and the alpha and omega of apostasy.    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Where is the Blessed Hope of Adventism?           Forum Index -> Location Spot for the Battle of Armageddon View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message 8Ninety is under review Joined: 16 May 2003 Posts: 5 Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 10:27 pm    Post subject: Where is the Blessed Hope of Adventism? According to Christian doctrine, salvation from the penalty of sin is granted to any believing Christian, and such salvation is made possible by their sins being atoned for. Also according to Christian doctrine, the penalty for sin is eternal death, which according to Seventh Day Adventism is eternal nonexistence. So, the question is, WHO UNDERWENT ETERNAL DEATH TO PAY FOR THE SINS OF ADVENTISTS? Now we are talking about eternal death, not a few days in the grave and then come back to life. This is an atonement, is it not? Someone must take the place of the adventist and hense must pay the full penalty or the adventists sin haven't been paid for. Think about it. Thousands of adventists have been dead for years, and the apostles have been dead for about 2000 years. If three days in the grave was sufficient to pay for their sins, then they more than paid for such sins themselves. Back to top   '); //--> Eugene Shubert the new William Miller Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 1073 Location: Richardson Texas Posted: Thu May 29, 2003 10:15 am    Post subject: 8Ninety, You misunderstand Christian doctrine. How could a sinner pay for his sin with something he doesn’t legally own? The life of a created being belongs to the Creator. It’s obvious that a sinner can’t pay the requirement of a Holy God’s justice and wrath against sin. If there is an atonement, it must come from God Himself. Your greatest error is in thinking that your existence is equal in worth to that of the Son of God. Common sense says that an insect existence doesn’t compare with that of a human. What makes you think that the life of the infinite Creator is only equal to one finite creature? It’s true that justice demands the life of the sinner. It’s also clear from Scripture that Christ’s perfect life, His trials and suffering in the world and His supernatural anguish on the cross, resulting in death, is a sufficient atonement to save sinners. Jesus Christ ranks much higher on the scale of being than many suppose. See Exactly How Equal is Jesus Christ to the Father God? Back to top   '); //--> Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First          Forum Index -> Location Spot for the Battle of Armageddon All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Heaven----------------Administration Midheaven----------------The Everlasting GospelHigh Ranking RevelationMidrange ControversyNovice ClassFlight School Trainees High Mountains----------------The Summit of ExcellenceMount CarmelMars Hill The Plain of Megiddo----------------Location Spot for the Battle of ArmageddonThe Dragon, Beast and False Prophet Convention CenterSubtle Misunderstanding Green Valleys----------------Picnic Area The World----------------University HallTown HallBillboardLibraryNewsroomFamily RoomCourtroomJail Hell----------------The Bottomless Pit  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group