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Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 69 Location: Largo Florida
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:37 am Post subject: "One hundred million souls for Christ”
Evangelist Rodney Howard Browne is saying that the devil killed his daughter because he was going to win 100 million souls for Jesus. Also Rodney got all the top Pentecostal preachers to pray for his daughter and nothing happened. So how can Rodney win a 100 million souls from Jesus when he cannot even raise his daughter from the dead? He cannot! He is nothing but a lying son of hell! What do you want from a classical pentecostal demon? Not integrity or truthfulness but lies and deceivement!
Gil & Loraine Howard-Browne are moving to Tampa this March to help Evangelist Rodney Howard- Browne win "One hundred million souls for Christ over the next 10 years?" Considering the Howard-Brownes are naturalized Americans who don't belong to ECFA and are accountable to no one but themselves, this is a very stupid and impossible vision especially considering that there have never been one hundred million souls won for Jesus in a period of ten years through out earth's history. They are nothing but liars, thieves and con-artists- Wally Duncaster
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This man/woman is a reflection of what is going on in the world and it underscores the great urgency for the Church to respond to the call of God "Who will go for me" The answer should be "here am I Lord, send me."
Loraine and I have heard the call of God to make a huge change in our lives. My brother Rodney Howard-Browne has asked us to come and help him with the vision God has given him. "One hundred million souls for Christ over the next 10 years"
As much as we have loved the past 12 years, we must lay aside our own vision and join something bigger. Our heart has been for the small to medium church. Over the past 10 years, we have done approximately 2,900 meetings in about 32 US states and in countries around the world. We have driven about 235,000 revival miles in the USA alone.
We leave behind many wonderful memories of great revival meetings to press on to what God has for us. It is huge and we are extremely excited. We are moving to Tampa in the middle of March.
http://www.revivaltimes.com/ http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/rodney.htm
Rodney Howard-Brown & Friends
“It was the pastors job to fleece the sheep” RHB
"One hundred million souls for Christ” GHB
By John Davies
Few had heard of Rodney Howard-Browne before he led a series of revival meetings in Lakeland, Florida in 1993. A lot has happened since then; some of it is commendable, and some of it is reprehensible. In theory Browne came to America from South Africa to "revive" a largely sleeping church. He quickly got labeled as a Holy Ghost "bartender" because of the manifestations of "holy laughter" dominating his ministry. In his meetings he taught that no only it was the pastors job to fleece the sheep but only God was to judge pastors, not the (dumb) sheep! He also taught that thieves were to be blessed and rewarded, not judged for this is what Jesus would want them to do! He also taught that it was more important to give than to receive and spend a lot of time receiving offerings that he spent on himself and family members. Rodney learned about nepotism from his good friend Senior Pastor Karl Strader of Carpenter’s Home Church, Lakeland, Florida where Rodney became an instant success for the bible stated:
1TM 5:8 But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever.
A first-hand Account, Accurately Reported by Yves A. Brault.
I saw him in Florida as he was a guest-speaker at the Orlando Christian Center. I also attended his services in British Columbia, where he held a series of meetings from Nov. 19 through 23, 1996, in a popular charismatic church of Vancouver.
More than once in this 2,000-seat church auditorium, a member of his organization advised us to be careful at the altar and not step on those lying on the carpeted floor because "even if they are under the power of the Holy Ghost, they still feel pain!" Howard-Browne played a very active human role in the laughter manifestation. He joked again and again, "I'll read from The Amplified Bible, so if it comes out loud, it's because it's amplified." Himself a Caucasian, born and raised in Africa, now living in America, he came to this conclusion, "That makes me an African-American!" At the time of the offering he suggested, besides cash and check giving, "You can use your credit card: MasterCard, Visa, American Distress." The crowd was ecstatic.
Adonica - his wife - also made a brief appearance on the stage. At the very first meeting she was asked to greet the audience. Estimating that the crowd's response lacked enthusiasm, she said, "Are you just shy Canadians, or what? Are you just as the Americans?" A remark that lacked some tact! The Holy Ghost "bartender" seemed to believe that he needs to instruct people on laughing and behavior. He even defied those who would not respond according to his expectations.
It came close to threatening when he accused the more conservative people by saying, "We'll cast the religious devil out of you." He did not miss an opportunity to put his critics down, "Some people have got more faith in believing the devil can come into this place tonight to touch people. How dumb can you get and still breathe!" Referring to North American theologians, which he named dead heads, he said, "Bunch of whitewash, full of dead bones, like a constipated mule." Americans and Canadians, in particular, did not weigh much in his eyes. I don't know if his attitude has changed, but he said, "Jesus is alive. It's only North Americans that don't believe that."
The fact remains that multi-million dollars Family run Evangelistic Ministries in America be it the Hinn's of Orlando, the Straders of Lakeland, the Howard-Browne's of Tampa, the Falwells of Lynchburg, the Brights of Orlando, the Robertson's of Norkfolk, the Roberts of Tulsa, the Copelands of Forth Worth, and the Graham's of Minneapolis are notorious for hiding their total salaries and those of their family members and special friends in their indirect personally owned non- profit religious corporation while they live in palatial palaces like kings and royalty.
Just like with the Bakker's of PTL Club fame personal misconduct, mismanagement, and pillaging of the treasury and misuse of Ministry resources are quite common. Benny Hinn had to flee from Orlando Florida, when the media started to dig into the different scandals in his ministry. The Straders of Lakeland, personal friends of the Jim Bakker, Benny Hinn, Oral and Richard Roberts and Rodney Howard-Browne, went through a major split of Carpenter's Home Church in 1989 when the Straders refused to relinquish the financial control they had on the ministry, the church and its assets.
Unlike Jesus Christ who owned nothing, Televangelists Jan and Paul Crouch who lost their tax exemption for their Trinity Broadcasting Network are definitely not lacking in any material possession. Their home is described as "a palatial estate with ocean and city views and was purchased for around five million dollars. It has six bedrooms, nine bathrooms, a billiard room, a climate-controlled wine cellar, a sweeping staircase and a crystal chandelier. The three-story, nearly 9,500-square-foot house, has an elevator, also has a six-car garage, a tennis court and a pool with a fountain.
Trinity Broadcasting, established in 1973, has more than 768 TV stations on the air worldwide. The Crouches oversee a $100-million-plus-a-year enterprise. One of the Crouch estates is TBN's ranch in Colleyville, TX, just minutes away from the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. The 80-plus acre ranch contains eight houses and horse stables, is estimated to be worth about $10 million.
Mind you President Clinton did release his total salary and his personal income tax to the public while Billy and Franklin Graham and their friends do not. But adulterous and lying Bill Clinton seems to have more integrity and accountability than TV Evangelists do in this area?
It seems that all of these family run ministries see the dumb sheep as God sent to be fleeced for their own hidden agenda and growth of their personal kingdom of which they are kings and rule supreme and are not accountable to the public but only to God. But they collect their money from people and not God? And their tax exemption comes from the people and not God? So whom are they fooling? Not God and not the people!
Is it possible that they are really crooks who use the separation of Church and State to fleece the sheep as South African Evangelist Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne had said, it was their responsibility to fleece the sheep? For in a Howard Browne winter camp meeting in the USF Sun Dome in Tampa Florida attended by two CNT reporters, South African Pentecostal Evangelist Dr. Rodney Howard Browne taught pastors that "sheep needed to be fleeced or they would have too much hair and could not see where they are going. It was the pastor’s job to fleece the sheep."
Dr. Rodney Howard- Browne had been credited with bringing the laughter revival to America. But from what really happened in Carpenter's Home Church in 1993 and 1994 and its devastating effect on the community including the robbing, raping and murdering of the sheep, was not much of a revival.
The leadership of the Assembly of God denomination both in Lakeland and Missouri also would not accept the testimony of one of its members Roy Aldrich that he was robbed and raped by money changers and wolves in sheep's clothing in Carpenter's Home Church during the so called "revival". But the State of Florida who cared about justice, righteousness and truth accepted the words and testimony of Roy Aldrich about the Straders.
The Florida State prosecutors proved their case and convinced the jurors that Dan Strader, the son of the senior pastor Karl Strader, devised an elaborate scheme to attract cash in the real-estate and mortgage investments. He was selling the securities without a license and that the securities were unregistered. This was done in an organized method amounting to Racketeer-Influence and Corrupt Organizations, or RICO Act.
Daniel, 37, was sentenced to 45 years in prison in August 1995. He was convicted of 238 felony counts for bilking 57 mostly elderly investors, some members of the church, out of $2.3 million by selling investments in properties that didn't exist or already had liens against them. Others who were involved along with Dan Strader were not pursed by the State of Florida as they felt that the conviction of Daniel Strader was a good example for others to take notice.
Dr Rodney Howard Browne used his influence and powers to raise money at Carpenter's Home Church to buy the senior pastor Karl Strader his much needed second Lincoln Town Car. But when Rodney was requested to use his influence and power to raise money for the unfortunate elderly victims of Dan's Strader, he refused.
It is to be noted that Howard-Browne's standard biography claims he once served as an associate pastor at Rhema. But according to Rhema church officials contacted, Howard-Browne was never an associate pastor-nor did he ever hold any pastoral credentials or responsibilities. Said Kelmeyer: "Rodney was never an associate pastor here. He was an ordained minister by the state and a lecturer at our Bible school, but was not involved in any form of pastoral work."
Howard-Browne also claimed a "doctorate of ministry degree" from an obscure San Jacinto, California correspondence institution called "The School of Bible Theology." A state Department of Education employee contacted likened the tiny school, which bills itself as "The Seminary to the World" and has no faculty, to a "diploma mill."
While most doctorate degrees are earned through serious study at through hard work at a credited University, Life Christian University of Tampa, another diploma mill now related to Dr. Rodney, gives out honorary degrees to prominent Charismatic Christians based on stupidity and has stated:
"Many full-time ministers continue their education to the doctoral level through our Distance Learning program. These doctoral programs can include work in which the minister is currently involved and advanced standing is awarded for published works. Our illustrious alumni include such internationally-prominent ministers as:
Dr. Rodney Howard-Browne
Doctor of Divinity
Doctor of Theology
Dr. Joyce Meyer
Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
Dr. Kenneth Copeland
Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
Dr. Norvel Hayes
Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
Dr. Mike Francen
Doctor of Philosophy in Missionary Evangelism
Dr. Dick Mills
Doctor of Sacred Theology
Dr. Benny Hinn
Doctor of Philosophy in Theology
Dr. Kevin McNulty
Doctor of Missiology in Missionary Evangelism
So why are prominent Evangelical leaders in America so dishonest about Doctorate degrees and are hiding their total personal salaries? Are they ashamed that they earn so much or not enough? Or are they Crooks and Liars? Mind you the latter is more plausible for Evangelical Leaders in America, be they Billy or Franklin, Graham, Bill Bright, Pat Robertson, Rodney Howard-Browne, Benny Hinn, Jerry Falwell or others, have no integrity whatsoever; especially when it comes to their own personal salaries and those of their special friends.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/845747.asp http://www.tv.cbc.ca/witness/faitha/faithsyn.htm http://www.christiannews.0catch.com/hinn.htm
Joined: 16 Apr 2003 Posts: 2 Location: San Francisco,CA
Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2003 2:30 am Post subject:
The fact is: Evangelist Reinhard Bonnke has already won 39 million to Jesus Christ in Africa. I believe that God expands vision. God loves it when His children can look past their selfish lives, enter into Christ's sufferings and believe Him for the impossible. In fact, ONLY those who have done so will have ANYTHING to offer Him in Heaven. And all those who stand by the side of the road with criticism, jeers, who can't even believe God for a piece of bread will be very sad. Remember that David, God's anointed King went through much obscurity and was hated and his life was threatened by all. The anointing of God makes all flesh crawl. But what does the Bible say? Crucify the flesh. God will not do that for you. Search the scriptures if something is of God. Quit being lazy and letting your pastor do it for you. Walk in love towards Rodney Howard-Browne. Pray for him if you think he needs it. I say all of this to born again believers who say they love Jesus to stir them up to let Jesus truly be Lord of their lives, to serve Him and stop talking trash against things they don't understand. _________________ that if you confess with your mouth Jesus Christ is Lord and believe in your heart God raised Him from the dead you shall be saved
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