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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 12:33 pm Post subject: i watched the wayne bent documentary last night
firstly i ought to tell you, i am not a seventh day adventist, i am interested in researching wayne bent \ michael.
i am a bible believing christian and baptised in the holy spirit. i believe in the trinity and i know God through the holy spirit. i would describe my faith as being independent to any denomination, but a cross between Baptists and Methodists of the Protestant order.
as i was watching the programme i felt repulsed by what i saw. my spirit did not agree. my sister watching it with me also a bible believing christian and baptised in the holy spirit felt the same, and called michael the anti christ.
to me michael looked like a rapist and a paedophile who felt he was acting in Gods will. in the film they showed a young girl who was removed at force by the police and her parents.
michael answered the interviewers questions and told him how the young girls came to him after hearing a message about how its good to be naked before the Lord. these girls became naked before michael, believing him to the lord. they said that michael asked if he could hold them. he became naked too and held them. they described that he held them and they felt that they were being held by god. the interviewer asked michael whether he knew the law about sexual relations with a minor and he said, jeff probably does. jeff refused to get into a argument about the law on the camera.
michael also spoke about why he had sex with the two women. he told how God came to him and forced him onto the floor and made him do actions that are similar to sexual motions. he then felt that God was telling him to have sex with these two women. jeff appeared to hang his head in shame while this conversation was going on and refused to look at the camera.
the womens husbands were then spoken to. they were told to direct their anger towards God. michael allegedly told them that he didnt want to do it but God was making him. when asked if it just happened the once, michael countered asking do you only have sex once in a marriage.
no one would say why the girl left, but eventually it was intimated that it was because of the naked thing that happened.
michael was shown holding hands with the young people.
it showed michael \ wayne's wife in it. she was upset by what had happened.
it grieved me that these people would believe michael. he actually announced that he was half man and half divinity. i couldnt see any love in his eyes.
my other questions are;
how big is this camp?
how many people live on this camp?
are they allowed off the camp for a day?
is anyone allowed to question michael?
do they read the bible?
how much contact do you have with michael?
the video mentioned that michael had put everyone through hell for 7 years. what does this mean?
thanks for answering. i just want to better understand this, because i know there is only so much that can be shown in the video. _________________ theres only one way to heaven and thats through God's son Jesus, He's the only way
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:13 pm Post subject: Re: i watched the wayne bent documentary last night
alloutforgod wrote:
i watched the wayne bent documentary last night
Hi alloutforgod. I'm a bit confused by your topic. Who produced that documentary? How did you hear about it? Was it broadcast on TV? Pedophilia is a criminal offense. Why isn't Wayne Bent in jail?
it was on tv in the UK on channel 4 last night.
heres the write up.
The End of the World Cult
C4 12 December 2007 10pm
Michael Travesser says he's the Messiah and that God has told him the world will end with an apocalyptic event at midnight on 31 October 2007. As leader of a cult in a remote corner of New Mexico called Strong City, this 66-year-old former sailor, previously called Wayne Bent, has spent nearly 20 years preparing his 56 unquestioning and devoted followers for Doomsday. They say they are all preparing for death, to go to a better place.
In this Channel 4 programme, filmmaker Ben Anthony goes into the heart of the cult to discover how Michael exerts his influence. He hears teenage girls talking about desiring sex with their leader, discovers that this sexual activity extended to Travesser's own daughter-in-law, and meets parents who have left the cult and are desperately trying to prise their children from his grip. Strong City has come to the attention of the FBI, who are keeping a watchful eye on the group.
As the programme delves into the world of Strong City, Ben Anthony asks whether Michael Travesser is about to lead his cult to suicide. Will this be another tragedy like Jonestown or Waco? Or is Travesser just a skilful manipulator, who undermines his subjects before convincing them that he is the route to all wisdom? Our world did not come to an end on 31 October 2007 – but did theirs? _________________ theres only one way to heaven and thats through God's son Jesus, He's the only way
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: i watched the wayne bent documentary last night
Eugene Shubert wrote:
alloutforgod wrote:
i watched the wayne bent documentary last night
Hi alloutforgod. I'm a bit confused by your topic. Who produced that documentary? How did you hear about it? Was it broadcast on TV? Pedophilia is a criminal offense. Why isn't Wayne Bent in jail?
i heard about it cos it was advertised and shown on one of our 5 main channels over here in the United Kingdom. yeah it is a criminal offence, but in the UK it would be for the victims to speak out and pursue a complaint against him, to get him arrested and convicted. though while they are thinking it is the right thing they wont do that.
i dont know the law in the United States. we are told the FBI are taking a keen interest in what he is doing, so hopefully he will be arrested and convicted sooner rather than later. _________________ theres only one way to heaven and thats through God's son Jesus, He's the only way
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