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vghopet
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:25 am    Post subject: Remnant of Remnant Reply with quote

Can you help me find the text where EGW says that in the end times the church will go astray, and only a remnant of the remnant will remain or go through. My pastor tells me that I must accept what ever the conference says... I told him that if I were to blindly accept whatever the conference says, I would have believed the Pope and would still be Catholic. If it is not scriptural, I don't accept it.

Specifically the belief in the trinity. I studied on my own and found that it was not added to fundamental beliefs until after EGW died. I offered many statements where she said silence is golden and that we could not understand fully. Also she made statements that said the Comforter, the Holy Ghost, were Christ's Spirit or the Spirit of Christ. I do not believe in the trinity. I believe that we are admonished to worship the Father and the Son but nothing states that we are to worship the Holy Spirit. No need to comment on this part as I have read most of what you have written. I just found your site and I was so happy to see that I am not alone in my findings.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi vghopet,

Ellen White never used the phrase, "remnant of the remnant" but that idea is present in her writings. Thus, your recollection is accurate. Here is a good example of Ellen White referring to the remnant church but meaning the Seventh-day Adventist church:

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The remnant church is called to go through an experience similar to that of the Jews; and the True Witness, who walks up and down in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks, has a solemn message to bear to His people. —Selected Messages Book 1, p. 387.

The meaning of that one Spirit of prophecy revelation is extremely important. See God's Startling Denunciation of Seventh-day Adventists.

How small of a percentage then is the remnant of the remnant? Consider this estimate. Ellen White wrote in 1900 that not one in twenty Seventh-day Adventists were saved:

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It is a solemn statement that I make to the church, that not one in twenty whose names are registered upon the church books are prepared to close their earthly history, and would be as verily without God and without hope in the world as the common sinner. They are professedly serving God, but they are more earnestly serving mammon." —The General Conference Bulletin, July 1, 1900.

It is true that Ellen White predicted that true Seventh-day Adventists will become a very small minority and that the majority of those who call themselves Seventh-day Adventists will apostatize. See my list of supporting Ellen White quotes. Click here. To those prophecies of apostasy, I now add two more. Ponder this inspired Spirit of prophecy assessment of the leadership of the church in Ellen White's day and her troubling prediction for the future:

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The religion of Jesus is endangered. It is being mingled with worldliness. Worldly policy is taking the place of the true piety and wisdom that comes from above, and God will remove His prospering hand from the conference. Shall the ark of the covenant be removed from this people? Shall idols be smuggled in? Shall false principles and false precepts be brought into the sanctuary? Shall antichrist be respected? Shall the true doctrines and principles given us by God, which have made us what we are, be ignored? Shall God's instrumentality, the publishing house, become a mere political, worldly institution? This is directly where the enemy, through blinded, unconsecrated men, is leading us. —Counsels to Writers and Editors, pp. 95-96.

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The work which the church has failed to do in a time of peace and prosperity she will have to do in a terrible crisis under most discouraging, forbidding circumstances. The warnings that worldly conformity has silenced or withheld must be given under the fiercest opposition from enemies of the faith. And at that time the superficial, conservative class, whose influence has steadily retarded the progress of the work, will renounce the faith and take their stand with its avowed enemies, toward whom their sympathies have long been tending. These apostates will then manifest the most bitter enmity, doing all in their power to oppress and malign their former brethren and to excite indignation against them. This day is just before us. The members of the church will individually be tested and proved. They will be placed in circumstances where they will be forced to bear witness for the truth. Many will be called to speak before councils and in courts of justice, perhaps separately and alone. The experience which would have helped them in this emergency they have neglected to obtain, and their souls are burdened with remorse for wasted opportunities and neglected privileges. —Testimonies for the Church Volume Five, p. 463.
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