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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 7:49 pm Post subject: If god loves us...
why did he create parasites, viruses, biological diseases, genetic diseases, hurricanes, tornadoes, deserts, pests like cockroaches, and others, why did he give us goosebumps, wisdom teeth (which are actually bad and not good), an extra rib in some people, earthquakes, why do men have nipples, why do women have useless tubes, why do dandelions have flowers if they reproduce without pollinization, why do dolphin embryos have hind-leg buds, why do we have to kill to survive, why did he make ugly things like deep sea anglerfish, etc?
if there's no evolution, why did he allow mutations to happen?
The abundance of mutations points to the origin of sin and to a curse on this planet. The Genesis account mentions that all animals began as herbivores (Genesis 1:29-30). There is an obvious curse in effect akin to the monster hypothesis. Weeds and poisonous plants are not part of the original creation (Genesis 3:18). There is a curse on the ground (Genesis 3:17). Conceivably, serpents were created dazzlingly beautiful with wings and the ability to fly, but they were cursed and forced to crawl on their bellies (Genesis 3:14-15).
The most dramatic alteration to God's intended purpose is that Adam and Eve and their progeny were to never die (Genesis 3:22-24). Do you really want to hear a moral interpretation of the Biblical account?
ok, I'll get to the root of the problem. Are we perfect? no. Is god perfect? according to you he is. Why can't god make something perfect if he's perfect?
You might say that he chose to make us so we weren't perfect... ok, but then why does he punish all other organisms for what humans did? and why did god punish the innocent babies of two people who didn't know right form wrong?
do you really think that punishing the millions of species of organism in this planet, the unimaginable number of individuals that lived then and that would come in the future, just because of two people did is loving, nice, merciful, just?
Should we punish the babies of criminals because of what they did? God does that... why shouldn't we?
so you're saying that god changed the organisms in this planet? he made them evolve?
why is it a punishment for snakes to crawl on their belly?
also... you say that they sinned because they had free will. WHAT is free will?
If god cannot forsee what his own creation will do, then he is not omniscient now is he?
Where was god when the devil was tempting them?
How did adam and eve know it was wrong to disobey him? Let's try to understand adam and eve shall we? You suddenly come out of nowhere... someone tells you that you can't eat the fruit... someone else tells you you should... what do you do? they didnt' know right from wrong, as it was the tree of knowledge. They didn't know what sinning was. They didn't know it WAS a sin. So one day they find this thing and it tells them to eat it... nothing else tells them not to, so they do. What's wrong with that?
God just stood there doing nothing while they sinned?
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